[gnso-policyimpl-wg] Attendance and Recording Policy and Implementation WG meeting - 03 September 2014
Dear All, The next Policy and Implementation Working Group teleconference is scheduled next week on Wednesday 10 September at 19:00 UTC for 1 hour. Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working group call held on Wednesday 03 September 2014 at 19:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20140903-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20140903-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr - At-Large Olevie Kouami - NPOC Greg Shatan-IPC J Scott Evans - BC Amr Elsadr-NCUC Michael Graham - IPC Anne Aikman Scalese - IPC Alan Greenberg-ALAC Tom Barrett - RrSG Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP Jonathan Frost - RySG Apologies: Chuck Gomes - RySG Stephanie Perrin - NCUC ICANN staff: Mary Wong Amy Bivins Marika Konings Karen Lentz Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag> https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew For GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 03 September Marika Konings:Welcome to the Policy & Implementation WG Meeting of 3 September 2014 J. Scott:dialing in now. Amr Elsadr:Hi. Dialling in now. Amr Elsadr:Just joined the call. Terri Agnew:Hi Amr Amr Elsadr:Hi Terri. :) Jonathan Frost:Sorry to be late Terri Agnew:Michale Graham has joined audio olevie:hi Alan Greenberg:On bridge now. Sorry for being late (was on another call). Terri Agnew:Welcome Alan J. Scott:Glad you're here Alan. Amr Elsadr:What is CPIF? Marika Konings:Consensus Policy Implementation Framework Amr Elsadr:Ah. Thanks. Marika Konings:A new accronym ;-) Alan Greenberg:Item 1 at top of doc Amr Elsadr:Nice!! :) Amr Elsadr::) J. Scott:I want to remind everyone that you can scroll down the document individually olevie:@Scott That's what i'm doing Cheryl Langdon-Orr:that is covered in the guidelines is it not? Cheryl Langdon-Orr:maybe that got dropped but we did in visage it at drafting Amr Elsadr:@CLO: Not in a lot of detail, if I recall correctly. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:adding out the detail. fine we need to do that , but I t was invisaged. some links to original WG members was intended. (included but not limited to of course!) Amr Elsadr:Every time the phrase "policy language" is used here, it is used with the intent that the language is adjusted but only to an extent that doesn't change the substance of the approved policies, right? Cheryl Langdon-Orr:I would hope so @amr Mary Wong:@Amr, yes Mary Wong:Think, e.g. of the UDRP rules Karen Lentz:yes, agreed also olevie:ok Amr Elsadr:Thanks. Marika Konings:The GAC doesn't develop policy, but provides advice Amr Elsadr:The GAC doesn't create policy, but provides advice on policy recommendations. Amr Elsadr:Marika types faster than I do!! :) Marika Konings:@Amr - that typing course paid off! olevie::-) Amr Elsadr::) Alan Greenberg:GAC might well effect changes in policy. And when itt does and implementation is not crystal clear, I guess we would have to adlib. Greg Shatan:The GAC advice is looking a lot more like policy recommendations these days... olevie:Please, who is speaking now olevie:? Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Anne olevie:Txs Anne olevie:soy CLO Cheryl Langdon-Orr::-) Amr Elsadr:@Greg: They seem to be pushing to do just that..., with a little help from others as well. Alan Greenberg:This should be driven BY GNSO PDP processes, not creating them. Although it is quite possible that this staff work could uncover things in the GNSO processes that need adjustment or change. Mary Wong:@Alan, yes - this is looking ahead to the next Deliverable/Charter question for this WG, on IRTs. Alan Greenberg:A staff internal document, but presumably they want to know if they got something wrong. Amr Elsadr:+1 @Alan. This document is really impressive. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes as adjunct to our outcomes Mary Wong:Yes, internal for purposes of discussion by this WG. As Marika has just noted, the WG may wish to incorporate an updated version of the Framework into its final Report - but that's up to you :) Mary Wong:FYI there have only been a very few IRTs to date, which is one reason for a timely development of such a Framework. Hopefully our compilation of experiences with the few IRTs so far (for this WG's review shortly) will help. Anne Aikman-Scalese:If implemented now, this appears to pre-empt and answer some questions the WG was tasked to answer. Marika Konings:@Anne - the framework doesn't deal with how IRTs should operate and what processes should be in place for IRTs/GNSO Council in relation to the implementaiton Marika Konings:which is the specific community part which I tried to alude to Mary Wong:@Anne, so if it helps - and following up on Marika's points - some of these "codify" what is being done, given the minimal experience and lack of framework at the moment; overall this is an attempt to provide the WG with some food for thought as it proceeds to discuss the role of an IRT in greater detail than what we have to date. Marika Konings:For the existing policy pages, see http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active Marika Konings:Some of the recent IRTs have also started using wikis Marika Konings:The GNSO project list also includes a brief update on each implementation effort currently Anne Aikman-Scalese:Obviously a well-thought out piece of work but of course (by way of example), the WG adopted its own Working Principles regarding Policy and Implementation and now we should apparently be looking at incorporating these as well? Amr Elsadr:Thanks Amy and Karen. That is very helpful. I look forward to seeing how this is done. Marika Konings:@Anne - these principles apply to the staff part of implementation. If you find these useful for the broader principles, or if you believe certain principles are missing from the staff document, please let us know. Marika Konings:I would see the WG principles applying to the overall puzzle, as I referred to it before, which would include both the staff part as well as the community part, while the principles outlined here specifically formed the basis for the staff framework Anne Aikman-Scalese:I guess I thought what the WG was doing would in fact also result in a staff framework and the two would not be separate. Amr Elsadr:Alan..., I don't imagine that there would be a need to create too much additional documentation to what is done as part of the implementation work to do its work. Perhaps some, but I would hope not much. I would be in favour of this being shared with the IRT (at least) and briefings provided during monthly IRT calls. olevie 2:What's happened with the voice ? olevie:I see,have opened AC twice :-) Jonathan Frost:Thanks J. Scott Amr Elsadr:Thank you very much Karen and Amy. Great job on the CPIF. :) Jonathan Frost:+1 Amr Amy Bivins:Thanks, Amr! Karen Lentz:Thank you all Cheryl Langdon-Orr:THANKS. tom barrett - EnCirca:thanks Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye J. Scott:thanks again and ta olevie:bye Attachment:
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