[gnso-policyimpl-wg] Attendance and Recording Policy and Implementation WG meeting - 29 October 2014
Dear All, The next Policy and Implementation Working Group teleconference is scheduled next week on Wednesday 05 November at 20:00 UTC for 1 hour. Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working group call held on Wednesday 29 October 2014 at 19:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20141029-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20141029-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#oct> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#oct The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr - At-Large Chuck Gomes - RySG Alan Greenberg-ALAC Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC J.Scott Evans - BC Klaus Stoll - NPOC Carlos Raul Guitierrez - GAC Olevie Kouami - NPOC Greg Shatan - IPC Michael Graham - IPC Apologies: Avri Doria-NCSG ICANN staff: Marika Konings Mary Wong Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag> https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 29 October 2014 Marika Konings:Welcome to the Policy & Implementation Working Group meeting of 29 October 2014 J. Scott:joining now. Chuck Gomes:I am waiting for an operator. Chuck Gomes:The phone is ringing. No answer. J. Scott:Chuck, we just started the recording and did our roll call. Terri Agnew:US number: 1-517-345-9004 Alan Greenberg:Very impressive echo! Marika Konings:can you please mute your computers / phones when not speaking Chuck Gomes:I am going to dial in again. Alan Greenberg:Echos are normall weak shadows of original. This one was stronger! Terri Agnew:Olevie Kouami has joined audio Anne Aikman-Scalese:Yeah for the black text! Thank you. Carlos Raul Gutierrez:also for the over 50 years old Carlos Raul Gutierrez:thank you for the change in font!!!!!! Terri Agnew:Greg Shatan and Michael Grams has joined Terri Agnew:**Michael Graham Marika Konings:I will refrain from using white font from now onwards ;-) Greg Shatan:Apologies for being late. Carlos Raul Gutierrez:staff only???? Greg Shatan:Sorry, I could not find white font for the chat. Michael R. Graham:Cannot call in -- I believe IRTs should be generally considered mandatory -- Greg Shatan:i am now on the phone as well. Chuck Gomes:Well said Marika Marika Konings:@Chuck - with staffed you mean supported by staff, or as in number of volunteers? Alan Greenberg:I presume he meant "staffed" on ther volunteer sire. Marika Konings:That's what I thought as well but just wanted to make sure ;-) Marika Konings:I think the formal concept is probably relatively new.... Alan Greenberg:Original IRTP was before my time, but I recall we re-invented it later@! Michael R. Graham:Still no phone (I can hear but not talk): I am thinking that rather than "mandatory" we might make it mandatory for the PDP team to consider whether to propose, and for GNSO council to consider in approving policy for Board to propose formation of IRTs as part of P&I process. PDP group should also be tasked with considering guidelines for IRTs. So . . . Mandatory that IRT be considered, Usual Course to establish IRT, but should be considered as part of PDP and Policy approval process. Chuck Gomes:Corrrect Alan. :) Greg Shatan:"Staffing" probably not the best word for multistakeholder participation. Greg Shatan:"Populated"? Alan Greenberg:Reason I am stressing flrxibility is that there is a tentancy in the GNSO to set up rigid poractices and here that may be overkill. Chuck Gomes:Populated with community members + staff Alan Greenberg:Sorry for types. When I enter a chat comment, it is somehow scrolling outside of the entry box and I cannot see what I am typing until I hit enter. Alan Greenberg:typos. Greg Shatan:Flexibility is a good thing. Don't want to be too rigid. Alan Greenberg:NEver seen this before Chuck Gomes:It might be helpful if IRTs had a liaison to each SG & C in case feedback is needed. Chuck Gomes:The liaisons may not have to actively participate in the IRT except when needed. Michael R. Graham:@Marika comments -- I like "except in exceptional instances"! And I agree IRT should review Implementation Plan -- that's where the real issues may be raised. Alan Greenberg:Chuck, the new gTLD PDP was PDP06 - right? Chuck Gomes:@ Alan: No but they started about the same time in 2006 Alan Greenberg:I thougth it bore that name originally. Chuck Gomes:I don't think so. Chuck Gomes:PDP06 was not on new gTLDs. Chuck Gomes:@ Alan: Doesn't the new guidance process cover that? Alan Greenberg:Yes, most likely it does. Alan Greenberg:Just pointing out that the IRT *might* hae to take a detour Chuck Gomes:@ Michael: I think IRT guidelines shouldbe very brief. Alan Greenberg:If Chuck and I are vehemently agreeing with each other, we must be right! :-) Michael R. Graham:@Chuck -- My thought is: list types of things IRT should consider in connection with the IPP (generally: does the IPP implement the Policy as intended?) and give a few general guidelines. Alan Greenberg:We have had a de facto Chair - ie a lead person. Michael R. Graham:@Marika -- I do believe the IRT should be more formalized in structure than having mere Liaison. Michael R. Graham:@Alan -- "Lead Person" would be what I'm thinking is needed. Mary Wong:On IRTs and policy processes - just to clarify that (unless this WG decides otherwise in its Final Recs) it's not for the IRT to decide whether, say, a Fast Track PDP (or other policy process) is required. Our understanding is that an IRT that encounters a policy issue refers it back to the chartering organization, via the liaison/Lead Person. Michael R. Graham:@Mary -- by "chartering organization" is meant GNSO? PDP Working Group? Mary Wong:Yes, Michael - in our case, GNSO Michael R. Graham:Okay -- I would agree -- though I would ask IRT in doing so to provide suggestions for dealing with issues to GNSO, and not just "there's a problem". GNSO Council should then decide how to respond to notification of issue - Fast Track PDP, or other process. Mary Wong:@Michael, agreed - the point being though that while the IRT can recommend it doesn't decide that particular point. Marika Konings:I didn't mean for the IRT necessary to go out for broader consultations Chuck Gomes:The chartering group is the Council Mary Wong:@Anne, Chartering Organization (per the GNSO Operating Procedures) means the group that chartered the initial Working Group, ie the GNSO Council for GNSO Working Groups Marika Konings:I was thinking of it more along the lines of guidance for staff - what additional consultations should be foreseen beyond those with the IRT. Greg Shatan:IRT has to have some ability to act, although with accountability to the stakeholder groups. Michael R. Graham:@Greg -- +1 Michael R. Graham:@Marika -- Staff driving the Implementation, but IRT is there as the Cricket conscience on the shoulder. Marika Konings::-) Anne Aikman-Scalese:I may be on a plane during next week's call. If on layover, I will call in. Thank you. Carlos Raul Gutierrez:thank you Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Thanks @JScott thanks all Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye Attachment:
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