RE: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Latest version of the comment review document

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Having just finished listening to the recording of last week's P&I WG meeting, 
I want to express thanks to all of you for continuing to make progress in 
reviewing public comments in the absence of a chair.  Special thanks to Mary 
for leading the meeting and to the WG participants who participated from 
Istanbul (Marika, Cheryl, Greg, Alan).  I found the discussion very useful.

Chuck

From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 10:03 AM
To: Gomes, Chuck; gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Latest version of the comment review document

Chuck, the recording is available here 
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-25mar15-en.mp3 and the 
transcript can be found at 
http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-policy-implementation-25mar15-en.pdf.

Best regards,

Marika

From: <Gomes>, Chuck Gomes <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Monday 30 March 2015 15:58
To: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>>, 
"gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx>" 
<gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: RE: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Latest version of the comment review document

Marika,

I thought he was a member.  That is one reason why I was puzzled by what seemed 
to be a significant lack of understanding or our recommendations.

Is the recording available for the call?  I don't recall seeing a message for 
it.

Chuck

From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:22 AM
To: Gomes, Chuck; 
gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Latest version of the comment review document
Importance: High

Hi Chuck,

Please note that Carlos is a member of the Working Group and participated in 
the last meeting (including providing further feedback on his comments). 
Hopefully he'll be able to join our next meetings as well to be able to answer 
any follow up questions the WG may have.

We'll fix the template ahead of the next meeting in relation to item 4.18.

Best regards,

Marika

From: <Gomes>, Chuck Gomes <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Saturday 28 March 2015 22:40
To: "gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx>" 
<gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Latest version of the comment review document

On my flight home from Istanbul, I went through the latest version of the 
comment review document.  Here are some comments and questions I have.

Who is responsible for performing any action items we identify? Note the 
following action items identified to date:

*         3.7  and multiple other items- we need further input from Carlos; 
Carlos made a lot of lengthy comments throughout the survey that I think would 
best be resolved via a conversation with him and the WG.  Let's talk about 
this.  Here are the items: 3.7, 4.14, 5.2, 5.11, 5.20, 7.4, 8.4, 13.4, 14.3, 
G.1.

*         4.1 & other items - This wasn't identified in the action column but 
rather in the response column.  Several of John Poole's comments related to the 
initial error we made in referencing a section of the survey.  Did anyone 
communicate with him on the fact that the error was corrected?

*         4.4 - This wasn't identified in the action column but rather in the 
response column.  We discussed asking the RySG to propose alternative language.

My comments on the items discussed in my absence on 25 March:

*         4.7 - The RySG comment was noted.  What do others think about adding 
the sentence redlined below?

Principle C.2.c):"Eachofthe principlesinthisdocument mustbeconsideredin 
termsofthedegreetowhich theyadheretoandfurthertheprinciples 
definedinICANN'sCore Valuesasdocumentedin article2oftheICANN by--laws 
(http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#I).P<http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#I)>articular
 note should be made tocore value4:"Seekingand 
supportingbroad,informedparticipation reflectingthefunctional,geographic, 
andculturaldiversityof theInternetatall levelsofpolicydevelopment 
anddecision--making."  (The WG notes that informed communication depends on 
effective communication throughout the community.)


*         4.8 - The WG decided to reject the change suggested by the RySG from 
'community' to 'GNSO' because it was felt that it would narrow the scope to 
exclude affected parties outside of the GNSO from participating.  I actually 
think the RySG change is correct because the GNSO is the policy management 
body, not the full community, but I also believe it would be good to deal with 
the issue the WG identified.  What about the following?

PrincipleD.1.b:"ChangestoGNSOimplementation guidanceneedtobeexaminedbythe 
GNSOCouncilor  anotherappropriate entityasdesignatedby 
theGNSOCouncilonwheretheyfall inthespectrumof policyandimplementation.In 
allcases,thecommunityGNSO maintainstherightto challengewhethersuchupdates 
needfurtherreviewfor policyimplications while at the same time recognizing that 
all impacted parties in the community should be given the opportunity to 
contribute to the GNSO challenge process."


*         4.14 and later substantial comments by Carlos - As I suggested toward 
the beginning of my response, I personally think it might be useful and the 
most time effective to schedule a call with Carlos and the WG or some subset of 
the WG to have a live discussion of his concerns and possible solutions.

The NCSG makes some substantial suggestions on at least 11 items. Fortunately, 
we have some NCSG members in our WG so I think it would be good for us to 
discuss those when the NCSG members can be present.  Here are the items: 5.4, 
5.22, 5.24, 5.31, 7.6, 8.6, 9.6, 11.6, 13.6, 14.5, G.4.

Likewise, the ALAC makes some substantial suggestions on at least 4 items. 
Fortunately, we have some ALAC members in our WG so I think it would be good 
for us to discuss those when the ALAC members can be present.  Here are the 
items:  5.5/5.6, 5.15, 5.33, G6.

And the IPC also makes some substantial suggestions on at least 6items. 
Fortunately, we have some IPC members in our WG so I think it would be good for 
us to discuss those when the IPC members can be present.  Here are the items:  
7.5, 9.5, 10.5, 12.5, 14.4, G.3.

Marika & I talked briefly in Istanbul.  We have not made as much progress on 
going through the public comments as we had hoped and may be in jeopardy of 
missing our target dates.  She suggested that we could get some volunteers (or 
small groups of volunteers) to draft possible responses for subsets of the 
items and then present those to the full WG.  Of course we would need 
volunteers for that to work.  How many of you would be willing to do this?  In 
the cases of the comments from the ALAC, IPC and NCSG, we would need to pair WG 
members from those respective groups with some who are not from those groups. 
Please respond to this email if you are willing to contribute in this way.  
Another option could be to lengthen our calls from 60 minutes to 90 minutes; 
please respond if you could or could not do that.

Marika/Mary - Note that we ended up with a sea pair of duplicate items: all of 
4.18 appears to be included in 4.19.  I suggest that we delete 4.18 and leave 
4.19.  The fact that this only happened once is pretty remarkable considering 
how much manual entry had to be done.

Chuck






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