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RE: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Latest version of the comment review document
- To: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Latest version of the comment review document
- From: "Michael Graham (ELCA)" <migraham@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:50:06 +0000
Hopefully Carlos will participate in calls going forward.
MRG
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[mailto:owner-gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marika Konings
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 12:22 AM
To: Gomes, Chuck; gnso-policyimpl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Latest version of the comment review document
Importance: High
Hi Chuck,
Please note that Carlos is a member of the Working Group and participated in
the last meeting (including providing further feedback on his comments).
Hopefully he'll be able to join our next meetings as well to be able to answer
any follow up questions the WG may have.
We'll fix the template ahead of the next meeting in relation to item 4.18.
Best regards,
Marika
From: <Gomes>, Chuck Gomes <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Saturday 28 March 2015 22:40
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Subject: [gnso-policyimpl-wg] Latest version of the comment review document
On my flight home from Istanbul, I went through the latest version of the
comment review document. Here are some comments and questions I have.
Who is responsible for performing any action items we identify? Note the
following action items identified to date:
* 3.7 and multiple other items- we need further input from Carlos;
Carlos made a lot of lengthy comments throughout the survey that I think would
best be resolved via a conversation with him and the WG. Let's talk about
this. Here are the items: 3.7, 4.14, 5.2, 5.11, 5.20, 7.4, 8.4, 13.4, 14.3,
G.1.
* 4.1 & other items - This wasn't identified in the action column but
rather in the response column. Several of John Poole's comments related to the
initial error we made in referencing a section of the survey. Did anyone
communicate with him on the fact that the error was corrected?
* 4.4 - This wasn't identified in the action column but rather in the
response column. We discussed asking the RySG to propose alternative language.
My comments on the items discussed in my absence on 25 March:
* 4.7 - The RySG comment was noted. What do others think about adding
the sentence redlined below?
Principle C.2.c):"Each ofthe principlesin thisdocument mustbe consideredin
termsof thedegree towhich theyadhere toandfurther theprinciples definedin
ICANN'sCore Valuesas documentedin article2of theICANN by--laws
(http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#I).P<http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#I)>articular
note should be made tocore value4: "Seekingand supportingbroad,
informedparticipation reflectingthe functional,geographic, andcultural
diversityof theInternet atall levelsof policydevelopment anddecision--making."
(The WG notes that informed communication depends on effective communication
throughout the community.)
* 4.8 - The WG decided to reject the change suggested by the RySG from
'community' to 'GNSO' because it was felt that it would narrow the scope to
exclude affected parties outside of the GNSO from participating. I actually
think the RySG change is correct because the GNSO is the policy management
body, not the full community, but I also believe it would be good to deal with
the issue the WG identified. What about the following?
PrincipleD.1.b: "Changesto GNSOimplementation guidanceneedto beexamined bythe
GNSOCouncil or anotherappropriate entityas designatedby theGNSO Councilonwhere
theyfall inthe spectrumof policyand implementation.In allcases,
thecommunityGNSO maintainsthe rightto challengewhether suchupdates needfurther
reviewfor policyimplications while at the same time recognizing that all
impacted parties in the community should be given the opportunity to contribute
to the GNSO challenge process."
* 4.14 and later substantial comments by Carlos - As I suggested toward
the beginning of my response, I personally think it might be useful and the
most time effective to schedule a call with Carlos and the WG or some subset of
the WG to have a live discussion of his concerns and possible solutions.
The NCSG makes some substantial suggestions on at least 11 items. Fortunately,
we have some NCSG members in our WG so I think it would be good for us to
discuss those when the NCSG members can be present. Here are the items: 5.4,
5.22, 5.24, 5.31, 7.6, 8.6, 9.6, 11.6, 13.6, 14.5, G.4.
Likewise, the ALAC makes some substantial suggestions on at least 4 items.
Fortunately, we have some ALAC members in our WG so I think it would be good
for us to discuss those when the ALAC members can be present. Here are the
items: 5.5/5.6, 5.15, 5.33, G6.
And the IPC also makes some substantial suggestions on at least 6items.
Fortunately, we have some IPC members in our WG so I think it would be good for
us to discuss those when the IPC members can be present. Here are the items:
7.5, 9.5, 10.5, 12.5, 14.4, G.3.
Marika & I talked briefly in Istanbul. We have not made as much progress on
going through the public comments as we had hoped and may be in jeopardy of
missing our target dates. She suggested that we could get some volunteers (or
small groups of volunteers) to draft possible responses for subsets of the
items and then present those to the full WG. Of course we would need
volunteers for that to work. How many of you would be willing to do this? In
the cases of the comments from the ALAC, IPC and NCSG, we would need to pair WG
members from those respective groups with some who are not from those groups.
Please respond to this email if you are willing to contribute in this way.
Another option could be to lengthen our calls from 60 minutes to 90 minutes;
please respond if you could or could not do that.
Marika/Mary - Note that we ended up with a sea pair of duplicate items: all of
4.18 appears to be included in 4.19. I suggest that we delete 4.18 and leave
4.19. The fact that this only happened once is pretty remarkable considering
how much manual entry had to be done.
Chuck
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