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Re: [gnso-ppsc-wg] Final Version - GNSO Working Group Guidelines

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  • Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc-wg] Final Version - GNSO Working Group Guidelines
  • From: "Caroline Greer" <cgreer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:47:46 +0100

That seems like a good approach. We adopt this approach on the Council 
actually. 

Kind regards


----------------
Caroline Greer
Director of Policy 
dotMobi 


----- Original Message -----
From: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@xxxxxxxxx>
To: S. Subbiah <subbiah@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Caroline Greer; Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>; J. Scott Evans 
<jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx>; gnso-ppsc-wg@xxxxxxxxx <gnso-ppsc-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon May 31 19:21:54 2010
Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc-wg] Final Version - GNSO Working Group Guidelines

To  the DOI matter the term used  throughout our discussions on DOI's is that 
they should be subject to "Continuous Disclosure"  that as an item can sit as a 
standing Agenda item on all Meetings rather than periodically IMO

Cheryl Langdon-Orr
(CLO)




On 31 May 2010 20:43, S. Subbiah <subbiah@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


        I am okay with Caroline's 2 remaining suggestions. Perhasp not an 
"interst" check at every meeting, but periodically by the chair as a best 
practice.



        Caroline Greer wrote:
        
        

                Thanks Marika.
                
                In relation to comment 3, I did not realize that was the case 
for all WG meetings. If this is indeed now common practice, no problem, we can 
drop that one.
                
                As regards comment 6, I personally think it would be helpful to 
add a comment somewhere that a Chair might need to run checks throughout the 
life of the WG (eg for renewed DOIs) and not just at the first meeting, as a 
matter of best practice.
                
                Thanks again,
                
                Caroline.
                
                *From:* Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx]
                *Sent:* 31 May 2010 10:50
                *To:* Caroline Greer; Cheryl Langdon-Orr; J. Scott Evans; 
gnso-ppsc-wg@xxxxxxxxx
                *Subject:* Re: [gnso-ppsc-wg] Final Version - GNSO Working 
Group Guidelines
                
                Hi Caroline,
                
                Comment 3 is in my view correct. All WG meetings are normally 
recorded and transcriptions are provided. Maybe you are thinking of the live 
scribing, which is indeed not normal practice?
                
                I’m happy to include your proposed edit on comment 4, unless 
there is any objection from other members in the WG.
                
                In relation to comment 6, the Chairs checklist, it was my 
understanding that this checklist related to the first meeting of the WG, not 
every meeting, so adding a check for DOIs for every meeting would require a 
separate check list or further explanation.
                
                I would like to encourage other members of the WT to share 
their views, especially if they differ from my interpretation.
                
                Thanks,
                
                Marika
                
                
                On 31/05/10 11:41, "Caroline Greer" <cgreer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                
                Thanks Marika.
                
                I am surprised that of my six comments, comments 3,4 and 
perhaps even 6 are considered as ‘substantial’. To me, they are more common 
sense edits and/or a reflection of what actually happens in WG situations.
                
                I have included those 3 comments again below. Are we really not 
able to include them? I’d hate to be bothering the PPSC with such minor issues.
                
                Many thanks,
                
                Caroline.
                
                */3. The last sentence of the second paragraph of Section 4.1 
says, “As described above, meetings are normally recorded and transcribed.” 
Perhaps we should change this to “As described above, meetings are normally 
recorded or transcribed" as both rarely happen from what I understand.
                
                4. The last sentence of the first paragraph on page 20 says, 
“If funding is required to organize such a meeting (e.g. travel expenses), a 
request should be made to the Chartering Organization for approval.” It might 
be good to add "with as much advance notice as possible".
                
                /*
                */6. Finally, in Annex I, Chairs Checklist, we might want to 
add a check for Disclosures of Interest in each meeting when new issues are 
being discussed.
                
                /**/
                /*
                
                *From:* owner-gnso-ppsc-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc-wg@xxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Marika Konings
                *Sent:* 31 May 2010 10:30
                *To:* Cheryl Langdon-Orr; J. Scott Evans; gnso-ppsc-wg@xxxxxxxxx
                *Subject:* [gnso-ppsc-wg] Final Version - GNSO Working Group 
Guidelines
                
                Dear All,
                
                Please find attached the final version of the Working Group 
Guidelines, incorporating / addressing the comments and edits provided by Avri, 
J. Scott and Cheryl. In relation to Caroline’s comments, apart from comment 1, 
I did not include her other suggestions as these seemed to be more substantial 
than just edits and therefore requiring further discussion by the WT, noting 
that there will be an opportunity to address these in the PPSC discussions. I 
hope this is acceptable.
                
                If there are any other edits /typos that need fixing, please 
let me know as soon as possible, but no later than 18.00 UTC today (Monday 31 
May). Following that, I will submit the document for posting.
                
                Thanks!
                
                Marika
                
                On 31/05/10 10:55, "Cheryl Langdon-Orr" <langdonorr@xxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
                Only thing I noted in the version sent was an odd bit odf what 
looked like 'comment' still in line in the Page 1 Sec 1.1 Background, paragraph 
2 line 4 from :...and; secondly, what guidance should be provided to a WG on 
elements such as structuring, norming is this a word? perhaps 'setting norms' 
would be less neologistic, tasking, reporting, and delivering the outcome(s) as 
chartered (the working group process)." that needs fixing...
                
                
                Cheryl Langdon-Orr
                (CLO)
                
                
                
                On 31 May 2010 10:53, J. Scott Evans <jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
                Sent attachment in second email. Sorry for the confusion!
                
                On Sun May 30th, 2010 5:32 PM PDT Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
                
                

                        I saw no attachment of the mark up file :?
                        But I'm sure they would be agreeable...
                        
                        Cheryl Langdon-Orr
                        (CLO)
                        
                        
                        
                        On 31 May 2010 10:18, J. Scott Evans 
<jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                        
                        

                                I like Avri's fix to the GNSO issue. I have 
made just a few editorial
                                revisions on top of Avri's comments.
                                
                                j. scott evans - senior legal director, global 
brand and trademarks -
                                Yahoo! Inc. - 408.349.1385 - 
jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx
                                
                                
                                
                                ------------------------------
                                *From:* Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
                                *To:* Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
                                *Cc:* J. Scott Scott Evans 
<jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx>
                                *Sent:* Wed, May 26, 2010 1:28:00 PM
                                *Subject:* edit pass
                                
                                hi,
                                
                                it was such an enthralling read, i went through 
to the end - and 
                                

                this after
                

                                asking for an extension.
                                
                                i did a lot of markup and tried to propose some 
solution to the GNSO-CO
                                issue. might have gone too far, but do not 
think i did anything
                                substantial.
                                
                                i also pointed out some areas that might need a 
patch or two.
                                
                                i am fine with shipping it once these or 
equivalent fixes are made.
                                
                                thanks
                                
                                a.
                                
                                
                                










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