Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] RE: [gnso-ppsc] question of conflict of interest

["Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry a few typos.  the last sentence should say at the "Council level".
Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.
Vice President, Law & Policy
NeuStar, Inc.
Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx



----- Original Message -----
From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 07:08 AM
To: 'avri@xxxxxxx' <avri@xxxxxxx>; 'gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx' 
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Cc: 'gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx' <gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] RE: [gnso-ppsc] question of conflict of interest


I am going to refer this question to the icann staff.  I do not share her view 
that simply serving as the chair of the group should silence me during any 
council discussions.  That would be a first.  Avri was never silent in the 
Council discussions with any of the groups she chaired.  Neither is/was Olga, 
edmon, chuck, Alan and countless other councillors silent on any of topics at 
the Council level for groups that they chaired.  I also want to note that Avri 
was given plenty of air time at the Council meeting yesterday on defending the 
work of her groups, one of which she chaired.  Perhaps that too was improper?  
Also Avri's constant instant messaging to the NCSG reps during the entire 
Council meeting also would be suspect and in my opinion constitutes 
"participation" in the discussions and would have to be banned on the 
topics/groups she chairs.

If I have to recuse myself from a vote, that would also be a first (given the 
above groups), but I would be happy to get an opinion from staff on that as 
well.

I have to state for the record that the timing of this request is more than 
suspect and comes less than an hour after a motion that she wanted did not want 
passed unanimously.


If Avri is correct about not participating in the discussions, which I do not 
believe she is, then I will surrender my position as chair effective 
immediately.  The topic of the policy development is way too important to me 
and the other registries to give up the right to discuss the topic at the 
registry level.


Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.
Vice President, Law & Policy
NeuStar, Inc.
Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx



----- Original Message -----
From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 06:40 AM
To: Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx <gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx <gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] RE: [gnso-ppsc] question of conflict of interest


Hi,

Yes, Jeff recusing himself from PPSC and PDP WT related discussions/decsions on 
council would serve the same function.  

a.

On 9 Dec 2010, at 01:34, James M. Bladel wrote:

> 
> The simplest way to solve this issue (and I'm still not convinced one
> exists) would be for Jeff to abstain from PPSC-related votes before the
> council. 
> 
> But even this is probably overkill.
> 
> J.
> 
> -----
> James M. Bladel
> 
> jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent via iPad, using the free app from GoDaddy.com
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] RE: [gnso-ppsc] question of conflict of
> > interest
> > From: Avri Doria 
> > Date: Wed, December 08, 2010 11:57 pm
> > To: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: "Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx" 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I has very little to do with trusting Jeff. No one could or should do this.
> > 
> > It has to do with one not being able to be ones own manager. In today's 
> > meeting instead of being the manager who looked at the need to get work 
> > done more quickly and seriously questioning the chair on why he couldn't, 
> > Jeff was the PPSC and PDP WT chair explaining why he could not do the work 
> > more quickly. and though Jeff the chair gave no details explaining why he 
> > couldn't do the work more quickly, Jeff the manger did not question this 
> > but just refused the logic of motion that would have required more 
> > alacrity. 
> > 
> > This is not a proper chain of responsibility. This is not accountability!
> > 
> > a.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 9 Dec 2010, at 00:11, Marilyn Cade wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I too see no reason for concern. If Jeff can't carry workload, I am sure 
> > > he will ack/and take steps accordingly. 
> > > 
> > > I have a lot of respect for Jeff and his commitment and integrity, and 
> > > responsibility. 
> > > 
> > > But I also object to starting over on chair. Let's finish the work with a 
> > > conaiatent chair who has stated willingness and demonstrated his skills 
> > > and capability and commitment to fulfilling the ToR....
> > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mike Rodenbaugh 
> > > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 01:37:24 
> > > To: ; ; ; ; 
> > > Subject: [gnso-ppsc-pdp] RE: [gnso-ppsc] question of conflict of interest
> > > 
> > > I see no reason for concern...
> > > 
> > > Mike Rodenbaugh
> > > RODENBAUGH LAW
> > > tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087
> > > http://rodenbaugh.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx] On 
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Neuman, Jeff
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 4:35 PM
> > > To: 'avri@xxxxxxx'; 'gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx'; 'gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx';
> > > 'council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc] question of conflict of interest
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Avri. I understand your concern and if those on the PPSC and PDP-WT
> > > or the Council believe that I will not be able to do both, I will step 
> > > down
> > > as Chair of both the SC and WT. 
> > > 
> > > I will note, however, that there is no bylaw or operational procedure that
> > > bars a council member from serving as the chair of a working group and I 
> > > am
> > > fine with continuing to serve as well.
> > > 
> > > That said, I am happy to follow the will of the Council and the policy
> > > teams.
> > > Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.
> > > Vice President, Law & Policy
> > > NeuStar, Inc.
> > > Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri@xxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 07:22 PM
> > > To: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx ; Gnso-ppsc-pdp@xxxxxxxxx
> > > 
> > > Subject: [gnso-ppsc] question of conflict of interest
> > > 
> > > 
> > > hi,
> > > 
> > > As I have done before in other circumstances, I question the legitimacy of
> > > having a chair for the PPSC or the PDP WT who has ascended to the GNSO
> > > council and is one of its vice-chairs I believe that the influence a
> > > council member, who is in the position of approving or disapproving the 
> > > work
> > > of PPSC and its WTs is not consistent with also being a Chair of either 
> > > the
> > > PPSC or of a WT.
> > > 
> > > This is a personal question at this point, but I will be forwarding this
> > > note to the NCSG to seek their advice on the issue.
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > a
> > > 
> > >
>