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RE: [gnso-pro-wg] Revised Proposals Chart Based on Today's Meeting
- To: Mike Rodenbaugh <mxr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-pro-wg] Revised Proposals Chart Based on Today's Meeting
- From: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:12:05 -0700
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You are not forced to use the UDRP. You can use the courts, who do have
the ability to award damages.</div>
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It seems ridiculous to me to think that any business should be
expected to provide free or at cost pre-complaint mechanisms to stop
something that hasn't happened yet. And that's what you're really talking
about, not complaint mechanisms, but pre-complaints. </div>
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If you want to discuss improving the UDRP, effective and fair rapid
take-down procedures, improving enforcement of registrant agreements, etc., I
think most reputable registration providers would be open to that. But don't
ask us to fortell the future or to assume everyone is guilty by virtue of the
label they want to register.<BR></div>
<div><BR>Tim <BR></div>
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[gnso-pro-wg] Revised Proposals Chart Based on Today's<BR>Meeting<BR>From:
"Mike Rodenbaugh" <mxr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Date: Wed, May 16, 2007 11:14
am<BR>To: <franks@xxxxxxxx>, "Tim Ruiz"
<tim@xxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "Rosette, Kristina" <krosette@xxxxxxx>,
<gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx>, <BR>"Smith, Kelly W"
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<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR:
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I think IP owners generally do not want the “privilege” of
“defensive protection mechanisms”, but are essentially forced to
use them because the UDRP is so inefficient. It is extremely far from
‘cost effective’ since it costs under $100 to register a name and
put up an infringing website which makes money every day, yet costs many
thousands of dollars and many months to recover that name through the UDRP
(without hope of monetary damages). Thus the squatters win every time
with a nice ROI. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR:
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
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navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Registries and registrars, by enabling massive infringement at low cost,
ought to take steps to minimize abusive registrations at their own cost, other
than trying to sell “defensive protection mechanisms” to brand
owners. Every other business has had to provide complaint mechanisms at
their own cost, even though we would love to charge complaining parties, that
is just not acceptable to those complaining parties…. Registration
providers are like flea markets, selling cheap space from which anyone can sell
anything, including things that blatantly infringe rights of others. Long
ago, courts held that flea markets could be contributorily liable for doing
that, under certain circumstances. I imagine courts will begin to draw
the same conclusion about the domain space, since registration providers are
unwilling to take any responsibility themselves.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR:
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<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR:
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
This problem of course is bigger than just the registration providers,
Yahoo! and other businesses also provide tools for good uses that are too often
used to infringe rights of others. Contributory liability issues for
those other businesses generally have been addressed by the DMCA in the
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>
, and industry standards following passage of that law. That would
provide a nice model to absolve registration authorities of any liability if
they commit to act quickly and reasonably in response to sworn complaints.
Perhaps this WG is not the right forum for this discussion, because such
a mechanism should apply to all TLDs, not just new ones. But it is a
discussion that needs to be had, ideally before a lot of time and energy is
wasted by business and registration providers to fight this in other
fora. Unfortunately the registration providers benefit every day from
existing policy, so I am not optimistic that such discussion will happen soon
or meaningfully, but I will continue to press for
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div>
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<P class=MsoPlainText style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yahoo!
Inc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> franks@xxxxxxxx
[mailto:franks@xxxxxxxx] <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Tim Ruiz; Mike Rodenbaugh<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Rosette,Kristina;
gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx; Smith,Kelly W<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [gnso-pro-wg] Revised Proposals Chart Based on
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Having watched this process quietly, I coldn't agree more with
your statement Tim..</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
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10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=tim@xxxxxxxxxxx
onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=tim%40godaddy.com');; return
false;" href="mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx"; target=_blank>Tim Ruiz</A>
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<div><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=mxr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=mxr%40yahoo-inc.com');;
return false;" href="mailto:mxr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; target=_blank>Mike
Rodenbaugh</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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<div><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cc:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=krosette@xxxxxxx
onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=krosette%40cov.com');; return
false;" href="mailto:krosette@xxxxxxx"; target=_blank>Rosette,Kristina</A> ; <A
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W</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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<div><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:38
AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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<div><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> RE: [gnso-pro-wg]
Revised Proposals Chart Based on Today's
Meeting<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
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While it may seem that the world is ruled by IP interests, I would like
to think that isn't true (although this WG may be). But maybe I'm just an
idealist. The fact of the matter is that there is a difference between the
privilege of *defensively* protecting rights and the mechanisms that resolve
disputes after the fact. The UDRP is a very cost effective way to do the
latter.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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The privilege of being granted defensive protection mechanisms not
provided for in local or national law should not come at everyone elses
expense. If the legislative process, or some or other regulatory process can be
gamed to provide for that, so be it. I guess we'll meet you on the Hill. But as
ICANN repeatedly claims, it is not a regulatory body, does not control prices,
and the #7 you propose is not within ICANN's scope to mandate by their own
repeated claims. The recent attempts by registrars and others in regards to the
current registry agreements should make that
clear.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
And why should registries be concerned with improving your bottom line
at the expense of their own. That argument just doesn't hold water. You are the
IP holder. The cost of protecting your IP is yours.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV>
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
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<div><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">--------
Original Message --------<BR>Subject: RE: [gnso-pro-wg] Revised Proposals Chart
Based on Today's<BR>Meeting<BR>From: "Mike Rodenbaugh"
<mxr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Date: Tue, May 15, 2007 7:58 pm<BR>To: "Tim Ruiz"
<tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Smith, Kelly
W"<BR><kelly.w.smith@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "Rosette, Kristina"
<krosette@xxxxxxx>,
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Currently, as far as I know, registries and registrars are the only
businesses in the world who purport to charge any other entity to complain that
the first party is or likely will be infringing or materially contributing to
the infringement of the second party’s legal rights. That needs to
stop, and eventually logic will prevail and it will stop, through policy,
legislation and/or litigation. The hope was that ICANN stakeholders could
agree to some binding policy rather than pursue other
avenues.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR:
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As a potential political compromise up to this point, realizing how long
the registries and registrars have been benefiting so nicely from this reality,
I have been willing to accept that maybe they could seek to recover up to
<I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">half</SPAN></I> of their <I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">costs</SPAN></I>
of this from complaining parties. This I thought generous, and
despite the fact that every other business in the world must provide these
complaint mechanisms as a cost of doing business, and accordingly charge their
customers more. Registries and registrars should do that too, their
customers benefit from a cleaner domainspace and so do the registration
providers. These businesses certainly should not be arguing that rights
protection mechanisms should be a profit center for themselves. They even
seem unwilling to agree to a general policy principle that their pricing should
be reasonably based on their costs?
<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
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Unreasonable, unjustified costs will lead to less adoption of any rights
protection mechanism, therefore to more abusive registrations. Abusive
registrations have high social and financial cost to the public and impose
higher litigation costs upon businesses. Registries and registrars need
to accept more of the burden of minimizing abusive registrations which they
enable and profit from, and need to spread that cost among their registrants,
rather than seeking to profit from rights protection
mechanisms.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR:
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>I support this as principle/policy stmt
#7:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
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The fees charged by a gTLD for participation in its RPM MUST be
reasonably close to their actual or expected costs<FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR:
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<div><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR:
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>I also support Kelly and Avri’s
other principles as stated.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div></DIV>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>Mike
Rodenbaugh<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sr. Legal
Director<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yahoo!
Inc.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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owner-gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Tim Ruiz<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:51
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Smith,Kelly
W<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Rosette,Kristina;
gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
RE: [gnso-pro-wg] Revised Proposals Chart Based on Today's
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Currently, Registries are not required to justify most of their price
increases, and in fact, make no justification for their existing prices
whatsoever. I would be interested in knowing what basis or precedent there
is for any holder of legal rights of any kind to expect special treatment
and require justification of or a basis for Registry pricing from new
gTLD entrants. I propose this alternative language for
#7:<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV>
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<div><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE:
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gTLD registry operators MAY charge fees for participation in
its RPM. The amount of such fees MUST be at the gTLD registry
operator's sole
discretion.</SPAN></FONT></B><o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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Also, many of the suggested *principles* (which are actually proposed
policies) use the phrase Prior Rights. The SOW uses the phrase legal rights.
There is a considerable difference. The latter does not, IMHO, refer solely to
the rights of TM holders, famous names, etc. Whereas the implications of Prior
Rights as is used in most of these policy statements implies that distinction.
I propose that all suggested principles/policy statements use
the phrase Legal Rights instead of Prior Rights to be consistent with our
SOW.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV>
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Message --------<BR>Subject: RE: [gnso-pro-wg] Revised Proposals Chart Based on
Today's<BR>Meeting<BR>From: "Smith, Kelly W"
<kelly.w.smith@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Date: Tue, May 15, 2007 3:13 pm<BR>To:
"Rosette, Kristina" <krosette@xxxxxxx>,
<gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">All,</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I propose the
following alternative language for</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">principle</SPAN></FONT> <FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">#7 (new
language in red):</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> <BR><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">
The fees charged by a gTLD for participation in its RPM SHOULD be
reasonable and each gTLD applicant MUST identify <FONT color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red">in</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </B><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">its
application the basis <FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">of its fee
calculation.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><S> </S></B><B><S><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">on
which it anticipates charging fees.
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
I propose the following language regarding validation (revised from #8,
which we did not agree on). If we cannot reach agreement, I believe this
at least has support:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
The Prior Rights on which a party bases its participation and seeks to
protect in an RPM SHOULD be <FONT color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red">
subject to actual validation, at least if the validity of such rights is
challenged</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><S> </S></B><B><S><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">validated. </SPAN></FONT></S>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
I propose the following new principle (based on the questionable
inclusion of <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
u1:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>
registrations as a rights basis in the .asia launch), and am happy to
hear suggestions regarding alternative
language:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
To the extent a gTLD is intended for/targeted to a particular geographic
region, the Prior Right on which a rights owner bases its participation in the
RPM SHOULD originate from the laws of a country in that
region.</SPAN></FONT></B><o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Finally I agree with Avri's comments concerning applicability to IDNs,
and perhaps we can use this language, as the final
principle:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
The aforementioned principles should equally apply to both ASCII/LDH
TLDs and IDN TLDs.</SPAN></FONT></B> <o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Kristina, let me know if you'd like me to reflect these in a further
redline, or if you'll be collecting everyone's comments into a new version
before the call tomorrow.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">Thanks</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">Kelly Smith</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Intel Corporation</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">________________________________</SPAN></FONT>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">From: owner-gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx [</SPAN></FONT><A
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">] On Behalf Of
Rosette, Kristina</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent: May 14, 2007 2:29
PM</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To: gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Subject: [gnso-pro-wg] Revised Proposals Chart Based on Today's
Meeting</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><O:P></O:P>All, </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Attached is an updated proposals chart that reflects the discussion
today. I have also attached a redline. As you will see, I have
indicated the current level of support (based on my notes) for the proposals we
discussed and as we discussed revising them. Please review them and let
me know ASAP if I have mischaracterized the "revised" proposal and/or the level
of support. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Tim, once you've had a chance to review, would you please post whether
any of these specific points could be used instead of your principles
1-6? I will create a consolidated proposals chart shortly before our call
on Wednesday.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<div><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial">Kristina </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></div><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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