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Re: [gnso-pro-wg] Current Draft of Report
- To: PRO WG <gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-pro-wg] Current Draft of Report
- From: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:27:09 +0200
hi,
> What is the definition of a minority report?
The Names Council Rules of Procedure specifies that any Consensus
Policy Recommendations of a Task Force must include "a fair
statement of points in opposition and a substantive analysis of
their merits and the intensity of the opposition." Avri can confirm
this perhaps.
> Can anyone file one if they do not agree with the majority?
That is my understanding.
I am sure that i am not in the position to "affirm" for that would
take staff or someone else with authority of some sort. But i
believe the answer would be yes. I think the statement you quoted is
part of the story, but i think it goes beyond just including a
statement but the author of the report.
- though there doesn't seem to be any content in the by-laws that
speaks directly to rules for WGs, there are rules concerning Task
Force and non Task Force PDP processes.
- the WGs are, to my mind, extensions of the PDP process at least
when they are spun out of a PDP process, in this case the new gTLD
process. (i am not sure this reasoning would apply to WG spun
directly out of the council, but that isn't the question here)
- as derivative of the PDP committee, i think the WG would inherit
the rules that apply to the PDP process.
- the by-law also require:
all viewpoints expressed by Council members during the PDP must be
included in the Board Report.
- "all" would seem to include, at the very least, minority reports
from all council members who wished to express one. And while this
point mentions the Board report and not one of the intermediate
reports, I think the only way you get views expressed by council
members during a PDP into the board report is to include them in
intermediate reports.
That seems to me as far as the rules go, though there are others that
could be seen a relating indirectly. There is, e.g., a rule that all
observers in the council have the right of full participation, except
voting. Even though this rule is for SO and AC members who are
formal observers in the council itself, so far as i can tell this is,
by practice, extended to all observers in all groups that are derived
from the council. By this extension i assume that that non council
members of WG would have the same ability to append minority
reports. It certainly seems to be the prevailing practice in my time
on the council.
A lot seems to hinge on practice that grows out of a few rules and an
attitude of allowing a liberal interpretation that permits things
that seem within the spirit of the by-laws as long as they are not
specifically prohibited.
a.
On 24 maj 2007, at 23.46, Tim Ruiz wrote:
> What is the definition of a minority report?
The Names Council Rules of Procedure specifies that any Consensus
Policy Recommendations of a Task Force must include "a fair
statement of points in opposition and a substantive analysis of
their merits and the intensity of the opposition." Avri can confirm
this perhaps.
> Can anyone file one if they do not agree with the majority?
That is my understanding.
Tim
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [gnso-pro-wg] Current Draft of Report
From: "Griffin, Lance" <Lance.Griffin@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, May 24, 2007 4:28 pm
To: "Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Mike Rodenbaugh"
<mxr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
What is the definition of a minority report? Can anyone file one
if they do not agree with the majority?
From: owner-gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-pro-
wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:58 PM
To: Mike Rodenbaugh
Cc: gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-pro-wg] Current Draft of Report
This is the current draft? I thought Liz was working on an update.
So there will be no indication of who supports what? I'm not trying
to be an a$$ about that, I just think it's unusual not to and I
believe it will be an important question raised by the Council.
Also, will minority reports be included? I submitted one on Saturday.
Tim
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [gnso-pro-wg] Current Draft of Report
From: "Mike Rodenbaugh" <mxr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, May 23, 2007 7:54 pm
To: <gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
Kristina, this looks really good and I much appreciate all your
effort. I have a few suggested edits in attached doc, and three
substantive issues for potential discussion and clarification. First,
4.1.4: Agreement that if a new gTLD elects to use a Sunrise
Process RPM, then it SHOULD restrict eligible Legal Rights in such
a manner as to discourage abusive registration . [I don’t
understand this 2d clause. Does this mean Registries should narrow
the scope of rights that can be protected, to discourage gaming of
the RPM process? I don’t think there was Agreement on that.]
Second, sec 4.1.3 and 4.1.6 seem generally the same principle, I
would delete 4.1.6 or characterize it as an Alternative View.
Third,
4.2.4 Support for the principle that if a new gTLD elects to use a
Sunrise Process as its RPM and second-level names are not awarded
on a First-Come, First-Served basis, then competing applicants MAY
be provided with an opportunity to reach an allocation decision
between/among themselves. [I think there was Support that such an
opportunity SHOULD (or even MUST?) be provided. I see no reason
not to provide it.]
Mike Rodenbaugh
From: owner-gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-pro-
wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfRosette, Kristina
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 2:31 PM
To: gnso-pro-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gnso-pro-wg] Current Draft of Report
All,
Attached is the current draft of the report. Here's what changed
since last night's version.
Added Kelly's Introduction.
Added definitions. I used the definitions I suggested this morning
minus my subsequent revision to RPM. I indicated that there has
not been discussion of the Rights of Others section.
Created a fee-specific section in Outcomes. All fee-related
principles and proposals are here. Intro makes clear there are no
levels of support.
Created a new RPM section in Outcomes. All new RPM proposals
(Peter's, Mike's, and mine) are here. Intro makes clear that
there's been no decision and there's outstanding work.
Classified all other proposals as Agreement, Support, Alternative
View . I used the following methodology. I started with the chart
I circulated last night and re-characterized the levels of support
based on the postings today. If only one person objected to a
proposal, I characterized the support as Agreement. If only one
person objected to a proposal and provided their own suggestion, I
characterized support for the original proposal as Agreement and
identified the objector's suggestion as Alternative View. I
characterized the level of support as Agreement ONLY if there was
unanimity OR there was only one objection. Please check these
carefully. Any mischaracterizations ARE NOT intentional. (Avri, I
integrated your comments in #16 in way that I think you would find
agreeable. Please check 4.2.5)) Finally, I listed in Outstanding
work everything that had not been substantively discussed and/or
had not resulted in level of support.
-*-
The report needs formatting clean-up as the spacing and may not be
consistent. I also did not change New RPM Proposals to reflect
agreed-upon terms. I'm sure there's something that I did or did
not do that is not mentioned here. Any and all omissions are
unintentional.
K
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