RE: [gnso-reg-sgc] Whois Sub Group C - matrix for discussion andadditions

["Maria Farrell" <maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear all,
 
The matrix I sent was agreed by this sub group last week. The group agreed -
and its meeting summary explicitly records this - to have me create a matrix
using the criteria agreed. If anyone has an issue with that, then they
should raise it when the sub group meets again tomorrow. 
 
'Privacy services' have not been discussed in the context of this group. 
 
The Final Task Force Report on Whois Services is emphatically clear on that
task force's agreement that some data will need to be redacted from
publication. This agreement was shared by all in the task force.  That
report is quite clear that Whois data will be restricted in some way - even
if some of the task force members agreed that this should be accomplished by
the 'special circumstances' proposal. This is what I referred to in the
matrix as 'closed'. 
 
Lets not re-open or re-package what has already been agreed. This Working
Group exists to further develop the task force recommendation. This sub
group explicitly discussed its task last week and agreed a set of work to
do. 
 
Maria 

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From: Paul Stahura [mailto:paul.stahura@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:23 PM
To: Maria Farrell; gnso-reg-sgc@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-reg-sgc] Whois Sub Group C - matrix for discussion
andadditions



The OPOC proposal does not "close" the whois anymore than what we have
today.

The OPOC proposal, in essence, sunsets two contacts: the admin and
technical.

With what we have today AND with OPOC, registrants can use ID-protect
services.

Is that what you are talking about?  Disallowing ID-Protect services in
certain circumstances (opoc or not)?

or are you talking about the two contacts, admin and technical? because that
is the only information not shown in opoc vs today.

 

All of your matrix items assume that there will be some restriction.

I think we need to debate that

Not debate legal/natural person vs. commercial/non-commercial.

 

There are reasons why a legal person AND a commercial company, or whatever
you choose to call the entity, would want their information private.

Do those reasons outweigh ICANN policy forcing them to not be private?
That is the most important question.

if there answer is yes (I happen to think "no"), THEN we can talk about the
complex practical questions such as how can we tell which is which and what
happens if they lie, etc.

 

 

 

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From: Maria Farrell [mailto:maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:59 AM
To: gnso-reg-sgc@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gnso-reg-sgc] Whois Sub Group C - matrix for discussion and
additions

 

Dear sub group members,

 

Following our call last week, attached is a matrix of legal versus natural
persons and commercial versus non-commercial activities. It is to help us
organise our thoughts about how to distinguish between these categories and
develop criteria for doing so consistently. 

 

Actions for Sub Group C members:

*       Please add examples where new examples will add to understanding of
show exceptions to the rule. 

 

*       Please add criteria for how to an entity in each cell (e.g. legal +
commercial) might be distinguished. 

Any questions, feel free to email me directly. 

 

All the best, Maria