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Re: [gnso-restruc-dt] Background on fundamental pre-conditions

  • To: Philip Sheppard <philip.sheppard@xxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-restruc-dt] Background on fundamental pre-conditions
  • From: William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:23:48 +0200


Hi Philip,

I wasn't around when you folks were hashing this out a year ago and am having difficulty understanding how the document you reference leads to the conclusions you're now drawing, so please help me out.

On May 8, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Philip Sheppard wrote:



"Milton asked:
Philip:Please inform this group of where this commitment (about NCUC membership expansion)
is articulated."
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Background note on current proposed structure of the GNSO

The agreement by commercial users to transfer 3 commercial seats to non-commercial users (in the existing reform proposal) has its origin in a joint paper from the ALAC, NCUC, BC, IPC,
and ISPs. That paper was called:
"Joint Proposal from the User Community for GNSO Council structural change April 2008".
It was negotiated inter alia by Milton Mueller on behalf of NCUC.

In the INTRODUCTION we find:
"The role of individuals and the At-Large is inappropriately curtailed in the governance committee proposal. Since ALAC is critical to ICANN’s external perception this needs to be
clarified".

Accordingly, as you note below, the proposal sensibly called for the commercial group to be open to commercially-oriented individuals such as consultants, and for the non-commercial group to be open to public interest-oriented individuals and individuals drawn from the RALOs. It did not call for renaming the NCSG to imply that individuals generally fit therein, or for curtailing the range of commercially- oriented individuals in the CSG. And if there was no shared understanding to these effects then and there's zero chance of reaching consensus on them now, it's not obvious why we're spending cycles on this or should ask the board to consider it.


In the BODY we find:
"Non-commercial interest group The Board governance committee recognized that it “must go far beyond the membership of the current Non-Commercial Users Constituency.” ICANN has invested substantially in developing an At-large structure to represent users. That
investment should be leveraged".

Right, the future NCSG should go far beyond the current NCUC. Nobody would be happier with that than the current NCUC; while we've been growing and diversifying (over 50 organizations, dozens of new individuals like me) via unsupported volunteer outreach, we'd love to see that trajectory accelerated. Hence, our proposed charter makes it easy to join the NCSG, form constituencies, etc. But how could this language possibly be interpreted to mean that the current NCUC was supposed to undergo the "root and branch change" you now demand as a precondition for the rebalancing of council seats? Again, since your conclusion doesn't follow from the agreed text and cannot possibly give rise to consensus now, I don't understand why we're spending cycles on it or would want to waste the board's time with it.


IN the ANNEX we find:
"Non-Commercial Interest group. Principles
§ The group should be an umbrella organization based on the non- commercial constituency and incorporating At Large Structures, public-interest oriented individuals and individuals drawn from the Regional At-Large Organisations with an updated program and membership scope. The exact details of this can be determined after the Board’s agreement to
the concept in principle.
§ At-Large has interests beyond GNSO policy so it is NOT intended to formally merge the At Large Advisory Committee, ALAC, with this group. Indeed no decision regarding GNSO Council restructuring should prejudice the role of any ICANN-wide users’ entity".

All makes sense


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It is this agreement to which the BC, IPC and ISPs refer when we question whether this
change in the NCUC has occurred.

Yes, but why?  The words don't say what you conclude.

It may have done. It may be a communication issue.

Clearly there are communication issues. For example, if you wanted to know what's going on within NCUC, you could have asked and then we'd have had a dialogue about it. Might have been better than the exceptionally divisive path followed instead.

But:
a) we nor the Board have seen the evidence.

...that things that were not agreed or realistic as preconditions have occurred.

b) it would be more indicative of change if the voices that told us there has been change
were today (May 2009) not the same ones as then (April 2008).

Said voices may read and respond more quickly and have a higher tolerance for this sort of thing, but there are in fact new voices, including two of our three councilors. Was it also one of your preconditions that NCUC members who were involved then not speak now?

Why not dispense with the revisionist history and needless time consuming battles that can go nowhere, complete the proposed bylaws changes based on actual points of consensus, and move on to all the substantive work that's outstanding?

Sorry to be puzzled,

Bill


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William J. Drake
Senior Associate
Centre for International Governance
Graduate Institute of International and
  Development Studies
Geneva, Switzerland
william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
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