RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] Followup from the meeting.
- To: "Avri Doria" <avri@xxxxxxx>, <gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] Followup from the meeting.
- From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:09:15 -0400
I believe that all voting thresholds should be in the Bylaws because
they are fundamental to the design of the bicameral structure.
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> Subject: Re: [gnso-restruc-dt] Followup from the meeting.
> some more questions and comments inline.
> On 9 Jun 2009, at 18:03, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> >>> Item 1.e in 'ARTICLE X: GENERIC NAMES SUPPORTING
> >> ORGANIZATION; SECTION
> >>> 3. GNSO COUNCIL' says, "One Nomcom Appointee voting
> >>> shall be assigned to each House subject to a selection procedure
> >>> defined elsewhere in these by-laws." Is that procedure
> going to be
> >>> defined in the Bylaws? I thought it was going to be
> defined by the
> >>> NomCom but maybe I misunderstood the SIC response.
> >> yes and no.
> >> for the transition, how it is done will be defined by the board.
> >> after that by the nomcom.
> >> later in the by-laws (x8), the specifics are made clear
> regarding the
> >> long term on the transition, we tried to change it
> yesterday, but we
> >> could not find the words and figured that the board would
> decide what
> >> went there when they were ready.
> >> so i think this is covered for now.
> > Chuck: One thing it seems to me we do not know is whether
> it will be
> > defined in the Bylaws or elsewhere. One thing we could do
> is delete
> > "in these Bylaws" and leave the first sentence as "One Nomcom
> > Appointee voting representative shall be assigned to each House
> > subject to a selection procedure defined elsewhere." I am
> > with whatever you decide.
> i have drawn a line though the phrase in an updated version.
> what do others think?
> >>> Also in 'ARTICLE X: GENERIC NAMES SUPPORTING ORGANIZATION;
> >> SECTION 3.
> >>> GNSO COUNCIL', the last paragraph says, "Except as
> >> otherwise specified
> >>> in the Transition Article XX, Section 5 (link TBD) or Annex
> >> A of these
> >>> Bylaws (link TBD), all bicameral house voting thresholds
> >> required to
> >>> pass a GNSO Council motion or other action are prescribed
> >> in the GNSO
> >>> Council Operating Rules and Procedures approved by the Board." I
> >>> thought we had agreed to include the voting thresholds in
> >> the Bylaws
> >>> and my understanding is that the SIC said the same thing.
> >> Shouldn't
> >>> we had the voting thresholds to this section with the changes I
> >>> mention in the last paragraph below?
> >> They would belong in Annex A. which i thought we are not amending
> >> until the PDP group finishes its work.
> > Chuck: My objection is that the clause says, "all bicameral house
> > voting thresholds required to pass a GNSO Council motion or other
> > action are prescribed in the GNSO Council Operating Rules and
> > Procedures". We agreed that they would be defined in the Bylaws.
> > Whether that happens now or later after the PDP WG finishes is less
> > significant than the fact that we state they will be in Rules. We
> > should at least say "all bicameral house voting thresholds
> required to
> > pass a GNSO Council motion or other action will be
> prescribed in the
> > Bylaws."
> Except that that sentence already starts:
> "Except as otherwise specified in the Transition Article XX,
> Section 5 (link TBD) or Annex A of these Bylaws (link TBD).."
> what I am trying to understand is whether you are saying that
> we should put all all voting thresholds in the by-laws, even
> though SIC appears to be answered that they should be in ORP
> except as required by legal.
> >> in the meantime we say:
> >> "Except as otherwise specified in the Transition Article
> XX, Section
> >> 5 (link TBD) or Annex A of these Bylaws (link TBD), all bicameral
> >> house voting thresholds required to pass a GNSO Council motion or
> >> other action are prescribed in the GNSO Council Operating
> Rules and
> >> Procedures approved by the Board."
> >> Does that cover it?
> > Chuck: Only with the change I stated above. This is needed too.