[gnso-review-dt] MP3 recording GNSO Review Working Party teleconference Monday 4th May 2015 15:00UTC

[Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear All,

Please find the MP3 recording of the GNSO Review Working Party teleconference 
held on GNSO Review Working Party teleconference Monday, 04 May 1500UTC: 
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-review-04may15-en.mp3
 On page:
http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#mar>


 The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master 
Calendar page:
http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/

Attendees:
Jennifer Wolfe
David Maher
Jennifer Standiford
Klaus Stoll
Philip Sheppard
Chuck Gomes
Avri Doria
Jeff Neuman
Wolf Ulrich- Knoben

Apologies:
Rafik Dammak
 Bill Drake

ICANN Staff:
Mary Wong
Marika Konings
Larisa Gurnick
Charla Shambley
Lars Hoffman
Glen de St Gery
Nathalie Peregrine

** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

Thank you.
Kind regards,

Nathalie


Adobe Chat transcript:

 Nathalie  Peregrine:Dear all, Welcome to the GNSO Review Working Party on the 
4th May 2015
  Chuck Gomes:Hi all.
  Jen Wolfe:Hi everyone - welcome!  We're just waiting for the Westlake team to 
join and then will get started.
  Jeff Neuman (Com Laude):Hello all.  I am a late comer to this group, but the 
registrars have asked me to join this group because they have not been able to 
give it as much attention as they want.  I am just starting to get caught up 
and look forward to helping out.
  Jen Wolfe:Thanks, Jeff, glad you are here!
  Larisa Gurnick:Jeff, welcome!  Please let me or Charla know if you need help 
with background information or documents.
  Avri Doria:this is a very peaceful call.
  Jeff Neuman (Com Laude):Thanks Larisa.  I have the docs and am starting to go 
through them.
  Avri Doria:it is the middle of the night were they are, isn't it.
  Philip Sheppard BRG:NZ is 3.12 am  -lovely
  Avri Doria:is going to be spread ...?  you mean it is going to get worse?
  Philip Sheppard BRG:I see no issue with further delay if that helps better 
feedback
  Avri Doria:a nice long comment period.
  Philip Sheppard BRG:Support Chuck's suggestion and Jen's
  Philip Sheppard BRG:But the key issue is that all recommendations are do what 
we do now a little better
  Philip Sheppard BRG:A rather tame outcome
  Larisa Gurnick:Jen and Chuck - would you be open to identify several Working 
Party members to work with staff to develop a template?
  Larisa Gurnick:Thank you!
  Nathalie  Peregrine:Scrolling has been enabled for all
  Larisa Gurnick:Chuck, we will take your suggestion and add all comments in 
redlined mode to the document, along with your comments
  Larisa Gurnick:@ Philip - please note the response from the SIC to the 
Working Party at the start of the reviews 
-https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/48337499/SIC%20Response%20to%20Request%20for%20Clarification%20from%20GNSO%20Review%20Working%20Party.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1430750957179&api=v2
  Philip Sheppard BRG:@ Avri +1
  Philip Sheppard BRG:@ Larissa - agreed. The key issue is a disconnect between 
the Board and its subsidiary the SIC. This disconnect shoud be highlighted.
  Avri Doria:But if they do not have recommendations we think they should have, 
we can't wait until the implementaiton phase to add them.
  Philip Sheppard BRG:Agree with Avri. There is no logic to believe you can add 
new substance in an implementation phase
  Avri Doria:i am not asking that Westlake add the recommendatons, but that we 
make them.
  Larisa Gurnick:Staff will make sure that Westlake review in detail the 
transcript and all of your comments since they were not able to join the call.
  Philip Sheppard BRG:@ Chuck - the world has changed since
  Marika Konings:Shouldn't the GNSO work drive the strategic plan, instead of 
the other way around?
  Philip Sheppard BRG:@ Marika +1
  Larisa Gurnick:Staff will  flag questions pertaining to Structure and 
Strategic Plan for Westlake to address at the next call, along with other key 
points that you will raise.
  Nathalie  Peregrine:Jennifer Standiford has joined the AC room
  Philip Sheppard BRG:Thanks Larisa
  Philip Sheppard BRG:BTW Rec 24 is very good!
  Philip Sheppard BRG:Agree with Avri Rec 22 is overly simplistic
  Jennifer Standiford:could people mute their phone s if not speaking?
  Philip Sheppard BRG:Re Rec 38, I support Chuck. There is a pragmatic issue 
here too. The work does need to be done!
  Philip Sheppard BRG:Page 17 is missing that Sep 2013 board resolution
  Philip Sheppard BRG:...the page 19 fotnote 7 is inadequate given the 
importance of the resolution
  Philip Sheppard BRG:Late comment. Pgw 16 "At ICANN's inception in 1999, it 
was structured into supporting organisations -" This is not correct
  Larisa Gurnick:@Avri re: recent improvements in diversity, particularly since 
ATRT2 - can you please point Westlake to the appropriate data to review this?
  Avri Doria:there is no data that i know of.  just an anecdotal expereince of 
greater diversity.  my point was they should have done that.  or at least admit 
that they have not updated it to reflect any changes.  they are basing 
recommendation on possibly stale data.
  Larisa Gurnick:Thanks for the clarification, Avri
  Avri Doria:leveraging work they did not update.  that is a pity.
  Avri Doria:my next is page 71/72
  Marika Konings:For the record, very much agree with Chuck's comment. I am not 
aware of any instances in whihc the Council has drafted an amendment to a 
policy recommendation.
  Philip Sheppard BRG:y comment may have been out of place after all !
  Marika Konings:in recent history
  Philip Sheppard BRG:Page 84 The GNSO's structure is designed to be adaptable 
and 'future-proofed' by allowing for the creation of new constituencies as 
needs arise, within the four stakeholder groups. This is inaccurate. Cs exist 
in one house only
  Philip Sheppard BRG:Westlake recognise this in the following paragraphs but 
the opening sentence needs improving please
  Philip Sheppard BRG:9.2 Merits inclusion of .brands as one third of TLD 
applicants
  Avri Doria:i have comment on 113, 116
  Philip Sheppard BRG:9.4 Diversity should include diversity of new TLDs
  Avri Doria:i'd say it was closer to a Sweidsh model thant a US model
  Marika Konings:Voting typically only happened at the GNSO Council level.
  Marika Konings:happens
  Philip Sheppard BRG:P115 "Changes to structure may be among the most visible 
of changes to an organization, but amending the structure should not be 
confused with addressing core issues"  This misses the pointthat the 
environment has changed dramactically
  Philip Sheppard BRG:The changed environment is a "core isssue"
  Avri Doria:Well, it they agreed, it is not really us who need to send an 
apology.
  Chuck Gomes:Thanks everyone.
  Philip Sheppard BRG:Thanks all
  Larisa Gurnick:Thank you everyone