RE: [gnso-rn-wg] reservation of nic, whois and www

["Tina Dam" <tina.dam@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Chuck, sorry for the late reaction to this. I am afraid I may not be of
much help here - the reason being that I simply don't know if the terms
"nic" "www" and "whois" is translatable into various other languages and as
such these terms should be considered for reservation as well. It may be
that the job of translation/transliteration is too comprehensive and
practical impossible, but you might want to ask someone else...Ram, Cary,
what do you guys thinks?

Tina
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-rn-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-gnso-rn-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:52 PM
> To: Timothy Denton; Reserved Names Working Group ICANN
> Cc: ck@nic.museum; rmohan@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Tina Dam
> Subject: RE: [gnso-rn-wg] reservation of nic, whois and www
> Importance: High
> 
> Cary/Ram/Tina,
> 
> Please look at the IDN recommendations in the attached table 
> and suggest any improvements you have.  Thanks.
> 
> Tim,
> 
> It appears that you forgot to replace the role statement in 
> Section 2 with the one that Mike Palage sent and that I think 
> we all supported on the call: "The rationale for the 
> reservation of these names for use by registry operators is 
> based upon long standing and well established use of these 
> strings by registry operators (both gTLD and ccTLDs) in 
> connection with normal registry operations."
> 
> Regarding the recommendations in Section 3:
> 
> - As previously suggested, please insert the full 
> recommendation in each case instead of saying 'remain 
> reserved' or 'same as above'.  This will make it easier for 
> Liz to cut paste recommendations into the new gTLD report.  I 
> think the table then would look like the one attached.
> 
> - Also, I don't believe the IDN recommendation expresses what 
> Ram and Cary suggested and it doesn't make sense to assume 
> that "they would remain reserved" because they have never 
> been reserved in IDN.  See my suggestions in the attached table.
> 
> Regarding the Consultation with Experts:
> 
> - You did not make any mention of the consultation with Ram 
> and Cary regarding IDNs.  That should be in this report to 
> support the IDN recommendations.  I suggest that you copy the 
> first paragraph of Section
> 4 from the ICANN/IANA report and modify it for this report. I 
> took a crack at it here: "As regards the IDN implications of 
> these three names, both Cary Karp and Ram Mohan were 
> consulted in a teleconference of March 1, 2007. The advice 
> received was that these names were "integral designators" to 
> be used "without translation". In other words, there was no 
> need to reserve these strings in other languages. Ram Mohan 
> suggested "Find the equivalent and reserve them at that time" 
> and added "Don't try to translate them", referring to the 
> acronyms and/or abbreviations." 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck Gomes
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:owner-gnso-rn-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Timothy Denton
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:53 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [gnso-rn-wg] reservation of nic, whois and www
> > 
> > All: Changes since the last version have been marked with yellow 
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> > Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> > > Tim,
> > >
> > > No redline version as requested.  Is it too late?
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> > >> Subject: [gnso-rn-wg] reservation of nic, whois and www
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> > >> All: This version reflects some small editing changes and the 
> > >> decisions of the WG on the most recent call.
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