[gnso-sl-wg] FW: Single and two character IDNs in .biz

["Patrick Jones" <patrick.jones@xxxxxxxxx>]

Below is an email from William Tan, NeuStar's project lead on IDNs. He
provides some useful examples on single and two character IDNs in .BIZ.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Tan, William [mailto:William.Tan@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:25 PM
To: Patrick Jones
Cc: 'Brown, Eric'; 'Drazek, Keith'; 'Tina Dam'
Subject: Re: Single and two character IDNs in .biz

No, those are not registered. Here are a few registered ones:

U-label: ?.biz
A-label: xn--w6q.biz
Translation: Japanese Yen
Pronunciation (Romanji): en
Script: Han

U-label: 龙.biz
A-label: xn--yi7a.biz
Translation: Dragon
Pronunciation (Mandarin): long2
Script: Han

U-label: 信息.biz
A-label: xn--vuq861b.biz
Translation: information
Pronunciation (Mandarin): xin4 xi2
Script: Han

U-label: ラブ.biz
A-label: xn--tdkub.biz
Translation: "love" transliterated into Japanese
Pronunciation (Romanji): rabu
Script: Katakana

U-label: すし.biz
A-label: xn--68jd.biz
Translation: sushi
Pronunciation: sushi
Script: Hiragana

U-label: 寿司.biz
A-label: xn--sprr0q.biz
Translation: sushi
Pronunciation: sushi
Script: Han

Note: Above two are different ways of representing the concept of 
"sushi" but I believe the Kanji (Han) is more appropriate. In fact, we 
don't know if the Hiragana version really means the "sushi" food, or 
another word/phrase that happens to be pronounced in the same way.


=wil

Patrick Jones wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tan, William [mailto:William.Tan@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:13 AM
> To: Patrick Jones
> Subject: Re: Single and two character IDNs in .biz
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> I'm sorry for the delay in responding.
>
> I read through your report briefly, it's quite extensive and I think the 
> definition of "Character" is worded quite well. Some comments:
>
> Symbols:
> 1. "Symbols are not supported in the DNS. Examples of symbols include: 
> #, $, &, !, *, -, _, +, =.". I think it may be more accurate to say that 
> "Except for the hyphen character, symbols are not supported as hostnames 
> in the DNS."
>
> 2. The definition of symbols addresses ASCII only. The RNWG may want to 
> consider using the Unicode "General_Category" value of anything other 
> than Lx (Letters, *) and Nx (Number, *). For information on Unicode 
> categories, please see Section 4.5 of 
> http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode4.0.0/ch04.pdf
>
>
> Single and Two Character labels:
>
> 1. The definition explains how it could be tricky to count the number of 
> characters if the string is non-ASCII. This seems open-ended and leaves 
> things up to interpretation. Or is this just an informational 
> clarification to advise readers to be discerning about such labels? It 
> would seem that "counting the normalized (NFC or NFKC) codepoints" would 
> be a sufficient and non-discriminatory method of determining the length 
> of a label, but I may be wrong.
>
> 2. With our Chinese and Japanese IDN, we have reserved all 
> single-character Hiragana and Katakana names, and also two-character 
> combinations of characters that are in the Japanese table but does not 
> belong to Katakana, Hiragana or Han scripts. For example the 
> "IDEOGRAPHIC CLOSING MARK" U+3006 (?) belongs to the Other_Letter 
> category and belongs to the "common" (Zyyy) script. This character is 
> allowed in the JPRS table, from which we have adapted our implementation.
>
> 3. With regards to examples, are you looking for anything specific? I 
> see that you already have some Han and Farsi examples in the document, 
> those are good. Here is an example in Japanese:
>
> U-label: ?.biz
> A-label: xn--7qw.biz
> Translation: spirit; mood
> Pronounced as: Ki
> Script: Han
>
>
> U-label: き.biz
> A-label: xn--w8j.biz
> Translation: unknown, this is a hiragana syllable, which could be used 
> to read many characters
> Pronounced as: Ki
> Script: Hiragana
>
>
> U-label: キ.biz
> A-label: xn--nck.biz
> Translation: unknown, this is a katakana syllable, which could be used 
> to transliterate many foreign words / concepts.
> Pronounced as: Ki
> Script: Katakana
>
>
> U-label: する.biz
> A-label: xn--88j6e.biz
> Translation: verb, to do
> Pronounced as: Suru
> Script: Hiragana
>
>
> Please let me know if this is not clear or if you need anything else.
>
> Thanks.
>
> =wil
>
>
> Patrick Jones wrote:
>   
>> William,
>>
>> I saw your Circle ID post on Chinese and Japanese characters being 
>> supported in .biz. I am assisting with the GNSO Reserved Names Working 
>> Group on single and two character labels. One of the categories that 
>> we are looking at is single and two character IDN labels. Do you have 
>> any examples of an acceptable Chinese or Japanese single or two 
>> character name in .biz that I could include in our report? Can you 
>> include a translation, the A-label and U-label as well? The latest 
>> version of the report was circulated among the subgroup members last 
>> night, and admittedly I still need to add information to the report. 
>> If want to see a copy (that will be updated later today) see 
>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-sl-wg/msg00011.html.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> Patrick L. Jones
>>
>> Registry Liaison Manager
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>
>> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
>>
>> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
>>
>> Tel: +1 310 301 3861
>>
>> Fax: +1 310 823 8649
>>
>> patrick.jones@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:patrick.jones@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
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