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Re: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: proposed approach to getting confirmation from 'technical experts' on their concurrence with Sub Group SL recommendations
- To: <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: proposed approach to getting confirmation from 'technical experts' on their concurrence with Sub Group SL recommendations
- From: "Shatan, Gregory S." <GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 22:26:56 -0400
I concur with Marilyn's suggestion, with Chuck's caveats.
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From: owner-gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx <owner-gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>; gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Tue May 01 09:54:08 2007
Subject: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: proposed approach to getting confirmation from
'technical experts' on their concurrence with Sub Group SL recommendations
>From what I can tell from Marilyn's message, this approach looks like a
>reasonable one. I would just caution though that the request for feedback
>from the two experts needs to be very carefully worded to avoid any need for
>further clarification from the experts because a 7 May deadline for their
>responses will not allow any leeway for additional consultation. In may be
>helpful to inform the experts that any need for clarification should be done
>NLT 4 May. It would probably also be wise to notify the two experts via a
>telephone call once the request is sent to them to ensure that they receive it
>and understand the time constraints.
Chuck Gomes
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From: Marilyn Cade [mailto:marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:49 AM
To: gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Gomes, Chuck
Subject: proposed approach to getting confirmation from 'technical experts' on
their concurrence with Sub Group SL recommendations
Dear SL WG
At the request of our chair, Greg Shatan, I am sending you a proposed approach
for how this SG could proceed to get concurrence for its recommendations from
the two invited technical experts, Mark McFadden and Steve Bellovin, who
participated in a SG âinteractive consultation callâ on 4-23.
You will recall that there has been some discussion on the list related to how
âexpert testimonyâ can best be provided in the Report. I have forwarded
Chuck Gomes, chair of the RN WGâs related email. We agreed on yesterdayâs
Sub Group call that there is not an intent to present âexpert testimonyâ,
since we actually didnât take âexpert testimonyâ. The âtechnical
experts were invited to an interactive discussion with the Sub Group, and
participated in a conference call discussion of some questions.
In my individual view, the free flowing nature of the dialogue doesnât lend
itself to being treated as âexpert testimonyâ; and in my experience, in
general, when experts present âexpert testimonyâ, they typically prefer to
provide that in writing and to know from the start that is what they are doing.
After reviewing the PDP and the instruction to the Task Force related to
âoutside advisorsâ, I made a proposal to those on the Sub Group call
yesterday and Greg asked that I send it to the full Sub group for general
concurrence. Those on the call thought it made sense, but we were missing Jon
and Mike. I think everyone else was on the call for the discussion. We need
your quick concurrence to the list in order to proceed and to meet the deadline
for finalizing the report from this sub group.
Recommended approach: The two technical experts should be sent the
recommendations for the four categories that were discussed on the call. The
members on the call yesterday proposed that the four categories to be sent to
the experts are:
[taken from Greg Shatanâs email of Sat 28 April 2007]
Recommendations
4: Single letters at the top level - Greg
5. Single letters and digits at the second level â Alistair [this is a
correction from the email/made during the call]
6. Single and Two Digits at the top level â Marilyn
7. Single letter/Single digit combinations at the top level â Neal
The other recommendations were not reviewed with them, as you will recall.
These recommendations and their write up which includes the recommendation,
rationale, expert consultation description and references would be sent to Mark
McFadden and Steve Bellovin with a request that they review them and return an
email with any comments, but noting if they support the recommendation, or have
questions, or have comments to offer. They will be advised that the email
response is needed by Monday, 5/7, COB, and that the email will be part of the
archive of the Sub Group. We need to send the request by COB Wednesday in order
to give them time to respond.
Note: the sub group members discussed the category of âexpert consultationâ
and agreed that it is to be a description of the process of the expert
consultation. It was not deemed feasible to include extensive narrative
statements from the discussions with experts. Instead, the transcript of the
call will be part of the reference section, along with the list of relevant
RFCs, or other technical documents (if any) that were reviewed by the sub
group.
In order to meet the deadline of next week, we need concurrence from the sub
group members to support this approach, and then we need to send the relevant
information to Mark McFadden and Steve Bellovin. Greg, can you call me
separately, regarding how the recommendations should be bundled to send to the
two experts. E.g. perhaps we can send them in two emails: sending the two that
are done early tomorrow, and then follow them with yours and Alistairâs?
Also, we need to discuss the suggested approach with Chuck Gomes, as chair of
the RN WG. I copied him on the email so that he is aware of the request.
Please respond back to the full sub group list by CoB Tuesday, regarding your
views or suggested changes to this approach, keeping in mind the time
limitations that we face.
Best regards, Marilyn Cade
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From: owner-gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:11 PM
To: Marilyn Cade; mxr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-sl-wg] FW: [gnso-rn-wg] Initial draft summary of the
conference call with technical experts on ASCII letters and numbers - prepared
for the SubGroup
If we are including expert testimony, it is critical that we quote their
testimony rather than report an interpretation of what they said. If for some
reason that it is not possible to quote their exact testimony, then we must
make sure that we accurately represent what they said.
Chuck Gomes
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