Re: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: proposed approach to getting confirmation from 'technical experts' on their concurrence with Sub Group SL recommendations

["Shatan, Gregory S." <GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Having heard from a number of members of our subgroup, all positively, and with 
Chuck's helpful comments, I think we can consider this approved.  Marilyn, I 
suggest you move forward with what you have under this framework.  Please call 
my cell if you have any questions.

Greg
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To: Alistair DIXON <Alistair.Dixon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
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Subject: RE: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: proposed approach to getting confirmation from 
'technical experts' on their concurrence with Sub Group SL recommendations

As do I. Thanks. Jon

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From:   Alistair DIXON [mailto:Alistair.Dixon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent:   Wednesday, May 02, 2007 01:37 AM Eastern Standard Time
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Subject:        RE: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: proposed approach to getting confirmation 
from 'technical experts' on their concurrence with Sub Group SL recommendations

I also agree with Marilyn's suggested approach.

Alistair

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Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:27
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Subject: Re: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: proposed approach to getting confirmation
from 'technical experts' on their concurrence with Sub Group SL
recommendations


I concur with Marilyn's suggestion, with Chuck's caveats.
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From: owner-gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx <owner-gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>; gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx 
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Sent: Tue May 01 09:54:08 2007
Subject: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: proposed approach to getting confirmation from 
'technical experts' on their concurrence with Sub Group SL recommendations

>From what I can tell from Marilyn's message, this approach looks like a 
>reasonable one.  I would just caution though that the request for feedback 
>from the two experts needs to be very carefully worded to avoid any need for 
>further clarification from the experts because a 7 May deadline for their 
>responses will not allow any leeway for additional consultation.  In may be 
>helpful to inform the experts that any need for clarification should be done 
>NLT 4 May.  It would probably also be wise to notify the two experts via a 
>telephone call once the request is sent to them to ensure that they receive it 
>and understand the time constraints.

Chuck Gomes

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From: Marilyn Cade [mailto:marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:49 AM
To: gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Gomes, Chuck
Subject: proposed approach to getting confirmation from 'technical experts' on 
their concurrence with Sub Group SL recommendations



Dear SL WG

At the request of our chair, Greg Shatan, I am sending you a proposed approach 
for how this SG could proceed to get concurrence for its recommendations from 
the  two invited technical experts, Mark McFadden and Steve Bellovin, who 
participated in a SG âinteractive consultation callâ on 4-23.



You will recall that there has been some discussion on the list related to how 
âexpert testimonyâ can best be provided in the Report. I have forwarded 
Chuck Gomes, chair of the RN WGâs related email. We agreed on yesterdayâs 
Sub Group call that there is not an intent to present âexpert testimonyâ, 
since we actually didnât take âexpert testimonyâ. The âtechnical 
experts were invited to an interactive discussion with the Sub Group, and 
participated in a conference call discussion of some questions.



In my individual view, the free flowing nature of the dialogue doesnât lend 
itself to being treated as âexpert testimonyâ; and in my experience, in 
general, when experts present âexpert testimonyâ, they typically prefer to 
provide that in writing and to know from the start that is what they are doing.



After reviewing the PDP and the instruction to the Task Force related to 
âoutside advisorsâ, I made a proposal to those on the Sub Group call 
yesterday and Greg asked that I send it to the full Sub group for general 
concurrence. Those on the call thought it made sense, but we were missing Jon 
and Mike. I think everyone else was on the call for the discussion. We need 
your quick concurrence to the list in order to proceed and to meet the deadline 
for finalizing the report from this sub group.



Recommended approach: The two technical experts should be sent the 
recommendations for the four categories that were discussed on the call. The 
members on the call yesterday proposed that the four categories to be sent to 
the experts are:

[taken from Greg Shatanâs email of Sat 28 April 2007]

Recommendations

4: Single letters at the top level - Greg

5. Single letters and digits at the second level â Alistair [this is a 
correction from the email/made during the call]

6. Single and Two Digits at the top level â Marilyn

7. Single letter/Single digit combinations at the top level â Neal



The other recommendations were not reviewed with them, as you will recall.



These recommendations and their write up which includes the recommendation, 
rationale, expert consultation description and references would be sent to Mark 
McFadden and Steve Bellovin with a request that they review them and return an 
email with any comments, but noting if they support the recommendation, or have 
questions, or have comments to offer. They will be advised that the email 
response is needed by Monday, 5/7, COB, and that the email will be part of the 
archive of the Sub Group. We need to send the request by COB Wednesday in order 
to give them time to respond.



Note: the sub group members discussed the category of âexpert consultationâ 
and agreed that it is to be a description of the process of the expert 
consultation. It was not deemed feasible to include extensive narrative 
statements from the discussions with experts. Instead, the transcript of the 
call will be part of the reference section, along with the list of relevant 
RFCs, or other technical documents (if any) that were reviewed by the sub group.



In order to meet the deadline of next week, we need concurrence from the sub 
group members to support this approach, and then we need to send the relevant 
information to Mark McFadden and Steve Bellovin. Greg, can you call me 
separately, regarding how the recommendations should be bundled to send to the 
two experts. E.g. perhaps we can send them in two emails: sending the two that 
are done early tomorrow, and then follow them with yours and Alistairâs? 
Also, we need to discuss the suggested approach with Chuck Gomes, as chair of 
the RN WG. I copied him on the email so that he is aware of the request.



Please respond back to the full sub group list by CoB Tuesday, regarding your 
views or suggested changes to this approach, keeping in mind the time 
limitations that we face.



Best regards, Marilyn Cade


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From: owner-gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:11 PM
To: Marilyn Cade; mxr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-sl-wg] FW: [gnso-rn-wg] Initial draft summary of the 
conference call with technical experts on ASCII letters and numbers - prepared 
for the SubGroup



If we are including expert testimony, it is critical that we quote their 
testimony rather than report an interpretation of what they said.  If for some 
reason that it is not possible to quote their exact testimony, then we must 
make sure that we accurately represent what they said.



Chuck Gomes



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