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RE: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: Redline draft of 1 & 2 Character SG Report

  • To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Patrick Jones <patrick.jones@xxxxxxxxx>, gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: Redline draft of 1 & 2 Character SG Report
  • From: Alistair DIXON <Alistair.Dixon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 11:43:10 +1200

I have a question about your comment on the recommendation for single letters 
or digits at the second level.  You suggest that registrations of letters at 
the second level prior to release of single letters at the top level might 
somehow restrict what letters can be released at the top level.  However, what 
is not clear to me is why release of a.com, for example, would prevent the 
release of .a (leaving the question of trademark protection etc aside for the 
moment). Further, it is not clear to me why release of a.com would mean that 
a.a cannot be reserved in the event that .a is released.  In effect, that is 
what has been done, as I understand it, with the newer TLDs such as .jobs and 
.travel, where I suspect names at the second and third levels have been 
reserved that are in use in other TLDs such as .com.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf 
Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2007 02:36
To: Patrick Jones; gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Liz Williams
Subject: [gnso-sl-wg] RE: Redline draft of 1 & 2 Character SG Report

This report is very impressive.  I have just a few comments and questions for 
the subgroup's consideration.
Recommendation for single letter or digit at the second level


        When this recommendation is considered with the recommendation for 
single letter at the top level, it seems to me that timing of implementation 
has significant impact.  If a test is required before single letter gTLDs are 
allowed and single letter second level names are released right away, then it 
seems to me that there are high chances that the single letter names at the 
second level may be registered before any such names at the top level.  When 
this possibility is considered in light of "If single letter TLDs are 
unreserved, reserve single letters at the second level in these domains.", 
couldn't this then result in situations where certain letters at the top level 
are eliminated because of corresponding single letters were previously 
registered at the second level?  Have you taken this into consideration and, if 
so, are you okay with these possible results?  Note that this also affects 
seciton 1.5 of your report.

3rd level recommendations


        I notice that you do not have any recommendations for the third level.  
Understanding that any such recommendations would only apply to new gTLDs that 
register names at the 3rd level, would your recommendations for the second 
level apply at the third level as well?  If so, it should be fairly easy to 
modify your recommendations to accommodate this.  However you handle this, you 
should include recommendations for the third level to cover any new gTLDs 
proposed that will register names at the 3rd level.  Edits would also need to 
be made elsewhere in the report (e.g., the beginning of the background section 
but not limited to that section) where you only talk about top and second-level 

 IDNA recommendations


        Have you had the wording of your IDNA recommendations validated by some 
IDN experts.  If not, you probably should do that.  In my Tagged names report, 
I found that very helpful in making sure that the recommendation was properly 

Minority statements


        I am sure you are on top of this, but let me remind you anyway to make 
sure that the minority statements you refer to are included after the table in 
your final report.  I note that minority statements are included in the 
Supporting Information section of the report; that is fine, but they should 
also be included right after the recommendation table.

Section 1.5, Consultation with Experts


        Paragraph  says, "Further work may be required before any 
recommendations can be drafted on potential release of single digits at the 
second level, due to the definition of 'domain name' in RFC 1035 ("must start 
with a letter")."  At the same time, you did not recommend further work on this 
before releasing these.  What is your thinking in that regard?  Would it be 
better to recommend release of letters only at this time and release of digits 
after additional work is done?

Section 1.7


        The 1st paragraph starts off with "Applications may be considered for 
two character names . ."  For clarity, I suggest that you say "Applications for 
new ASCII gTLDs may be considered for names combining one letter and one digit 
. . "

Technical Experts


        Make sure that you identify the positions and qualifications of 
technical experts so that readers know why they are considered experts.  You 
need not do that everytime you refer to them, but probably should do it the 
first time they are referenced or at least point to where their qualifications 
can be found in the report.

Chuck Gomes
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From: Patrick Jones [mailto:patrick.jones@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:19 AM
To: gnso-sl-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'Liz Williams'; Gomes, Chuck
Subject: Redline draft of 1 & 2 Character SG Report

Attached is a redline draft of the 1 & 2 Character Subgroup report. This 
incorporates edits from Alistair (in the recommendation table for single 
letters and digits at the second level and within the Recommendation 4 
section), Mike Rodenbaugh (in the recommendation table for digits at the top 
level and sections for digits at the top level and single letter, single digit 
combinations at the top level) and from Greg Shatan on single letters at the 
top level.


I updated the date in the redline to 6 May 2007. Please let me know if there 
are additional edits or suggestions. If there are additional edits, I'll 
incorporate them late this evening, and circulate another version tomorrow 
morning with a clean draft. 


Patrick L. Jones

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Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers

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