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Re: [gnso-sti] URS Strawman Proposal 111109.xls
- To: <wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <kurt.pritz@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [gnso-sti] URS Strawman Proposal 111109.xls
- From: "Nevett, Jonathon" <jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:57:48 -0500
Wendy and all,
What about clear and convincing evidence that there is no genuine issue of
material fact? This is similar to the IRT recommendation of clear and
convincing evidence that there is not contestable issue.
We need to protect against a form answer abused by cybersquatters that would
get them over the hump.
Alan,
On the language issue, it would be helpful to understand how this is handled
currently with UDRP cases. Could the URS be handled the same way for now and
include this issue in the scope of a UDRP/URS review? Just a thought. Changing
Whois protocols or adding new fields during registrations would be of concern
to my community.
Sorry I missed the call. Data works better than voice where I am.
Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: Wendy Seltzer <wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Kurt Pritz <kurt.pritz@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Nevett, Jonathon; GNSO STI <gnso-sti@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue Nov 17 09:51:55 2009
Subject: Re: [gnso-sti] URS Strawman Proposal 111109.xls
Thanks Kurt,
One quick response:
> No genuine issue of material fact -- similar to Rule 56 of U.S. Fed. Rule of
> Civil Procedure.
> Staff comment: this is workable, we think the clear and convincing standard
> is better. The strawman burden seems equivalent to the summary judgment
> burden – which can be defeated by essentially any evidence, where the clear
> and convincing burden, while high, enables some balancing on the part of the
> panelist.
I think a high burden and clear standard, leaving the examiners little
discretion, are critical to keeping a rapid and inexpensive URS fair.
Hence I'd argue that "any evidence defeats a complaint" is appropriate.
On a showing of any contestable issue, the matter should be kicked over
to UDRP.
--Wendy
Kurt Pritz wrote:
> David, John and team:
>
> I hope you find the attached staff comments on the URS Strawman useful and
> not intrusive. We will be available to answer questions on the call.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On 11/11/09 8:00 AM, "Jonathon Nevett" <jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> STI Team:
>
> Attached is an attempt at a strawman proposal on the key URS issues raised at
> our meetings. Not everyone will agree with every tenet of the compromise,
> but it is an attempt to do just that . . . reach a compromise. In some
> instances, principles are proposed, but details are left to staff to
> implement. This is appropriate for a number of reasons, not the least of
> which is our timing.
>
> Thanks to Zahid and Kathy and the others who paved the way with the consensus
> document. Also, thanks to Margie who -- per yesterday's conversation --
> helped prepare parts of the chart.
>
> Finally, I offer this up neither as a representative of the Registrar
> Stakeholder Group nor of Network Solutions.
>
> I very much look forward to continuing the discussions with the team on these
> issues. I hope that we can reach consensus and improve upon the ICANN
> proposals.
>
> Best,
>
> Jon
>
>
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Fellow, Silicon Flatirons Center at University of Colorado Law School
Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University
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