RE: [gnso-sti]

["Nevett, Jonathon" <jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

It sounds like we should take this new advocacy out of the report.  I
agree with Jeff that it isn't appropriate in a group report.  The BC
probably should append a minority statement on the TM Clearinghouse and
be done with it.  This is how we handled the GNSO reform report.
Thanks.  Jon  

 

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From: owner-gnso-sti@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-sti@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Zahid Jamil
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:19 AM
To: 'GNSO STI'
Subject: RE: [gnso-sti] 

 

Dear Jon,

 

I would not see it appropriate to belittle any one's views.  My
understanding was that these are final positions - I had expressed these
on the last call and on several calls but with little or no engagement -
these positions are not new.

 

The BC members do not see the Clearinghouse as beneficial - this has
been expressed by my members so I would not venture to explain to them
how the view they hold is 'inaccurate'.  Happy to invite anyone
interested to speak to my members if they so wish.  Until then I am
afraid the view is held by the BC.

 

 

In any case:

 

If the BC is inaccurate about the benefits to its members then what of
the benefit/cost reductions to Registries?

 

Also we are far far away from the IRT - the tapestry has been shredded -
thus, there is no comparison to the recommendations of the IRT and what
we have today.  In any case the STI is not subject to the IRT - nor are
any of the SGs/Constituencies bound by it. 

 

 

With regard to circumvention - If the Clearinghouse is supposed to be an
RPM or remedy to defensive registrations then it fails since registrants
would just wait until launch.  A prospective TM Holder would not see any
benefit in that especially since the IP Claims notice is nothing more
than a notice -which is available from current watch notices- what
protection does it provide?

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Zahid Jamil

Barrister-at-law

Jamil & Jamil

Barristers-at-law

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Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan

Cell: +923008238230

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From: Nevett, Jonathon [mailto:jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:02 PM
To: Neuman, Jeff; Zahid Jamil; GNSO STI; Margie Milam
Subject: RE: [gnso-sti] 

 

I agree with Jeff.  Many of these edits belong only in a minority report
. . . if anywhere.  

 

It would be great if the BC would highlight the differences between this
STI consensus TM Clearinghouse proposal and the IRT IP Clearinghouse
consensus proposal that has caused it to garner such ire and derision?  

 

I also agree with Jeff that the BC cannot be accurate in its claim that
a centralized sunrise database doesn't benefit BC members at all and
that it benefits registries over its BC members.  

 

This addition is particularly inaccurate, especially in the context of a
sunrise process.  

 

"The possibility to circumvent the whole Clearinghouse system due to its
inapplicability to Post launch thereby allowing gaming and making it
irrelevant in the first 30 seconds of lunch."

 

How would the Clearinghouse be circumvented, gamed, or irrelevant in a
Sunrise process?  Also, Jeff, is it fair to assume that the IP Claims
process wasn't gamed and rendered irrelevant during the .biz roll-out?
What is the difference now?

 

Finally, what's the relevance of when lunch is served anyway :-)?

 

JN

 

 

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From: owner-gnso-sti@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-sti@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Neuman, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:42 AM
To: Zahid Jamil; GNSO STI; Margie Milam
Subject: RE: [gnso-sti] 

 

I have to say I am disappointed in the BC comments and believe that we
should have a call to discuss this. I do not believe the BC minority
position should be sprinkled throughout each and every recommendation.
A note should indicate there is a minority position and state that at
the end.  In addition, the BC should not use this report as an advocacy
piece, but rather stick to the facts.  Lets discuss on our call, but the
Registries are not very happy with how this has come out either, but we
are willing to live with compromise.  The BC statement talking about the
Clearinghouse benefitting only the Registries is not only incorrect, but
is a complete distortion of reality.   The BC can make their arguments
to the GNSO and to the Board, but there is no place for that kind of
statement in this report.

 

Best regards,

 

Jeffrey J. Neuman 
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy

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From: owner-gnso-sti@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-sti@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Zahid Jamil
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:26 AM
To: 'GNSO STI'; 'Margie Milam'
Subject: [gnso-sti] 

 

Dear All,

 

Here are the BC edits.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Zahid Jamil

Barrister-at-law

Jamil & Jamil

Barristers-at-law

219-221 Central Hotel Annexe

Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan

Cell: +923008238230

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