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[gnso-thickwhoispdp-wg] RE: BC Input on Thick Whois Questionnaire
- To: Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-thickwhoispdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-thickwhoispdp-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [gnso-thickwhoispdp-wg] RE: BC Input on Thick Whois Questionnaire
- From: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:18:22 -0800
Dear Elisa,
Thank you very much for the Business Constituency's input on Thick Whois. Your
submission will be forwarded to the Working Group.
Kind regards,
Glen
Glen de Saint Géry
GNSO Secretariat
gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://gnso.icann.org
De : Elisa Cooper
Envoyé : mercredi 2 janvier 2013 23:06
À : gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc
Objet : BC Input on Thick Whois Questionnaire
Please find below a submission by the Business Constituency.
Best,
Elisa
Elisa Cooper
Director of Product Marketing
MarkMonitor
208 389-5779 PH
Stakeholder Group / Constituency / Input Template
'thick' Whois PDP Working Group
PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR RESPONSE AT THE LATEST BY 9 January 2012 TO THE GNSO
SECRETARIAT
(gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>),
which will forward your statement to the Working Group. If additional time is
needed by your SG / C to provide your feedback, please inform the secretariat
accordingly, including the expected delivery date so that this can be factored
in by the WG.
The GNSO Council has formed a Working Group of interested stakeholders and
Stakeholder Group / Constituency representatives, to collaborate broadly with
knowledgeable individuals and organizations, in order to consider
recommendations in relation to 'thick' Whois.
Part of the working group's effort will be to incorporate ideas and suggestions
gathered from Stakeholder Groups, Constituencies through this template
Statement. Please note that the WG is currently in an information-gathering
phase. Inserting your response in this form will make it much easier for the
Working Group to summarize the responses. This information is helpful to the
community in understanding the points of view of various stakeholders. However,
you should feel free to add any information you deem important to inform the
working group's deliberations, even if this does not fit into any of the
questions listed below.
For further information, please visit the WG Workspace
(https://community.icann.org/display/PDP/Home).
Process
- Please identify the member(s) of your stakeholder group / constituency
who is (are) participating in this working group
o Elisa Cooper
o Susan Kawaguchi
- Please identify the members of your stakeholder group / constituency
who participated in developing the perspective(s) set forth below
o Elisa Cooper acted a rapporteur for these comments.
- Please describe the process by which your stakeholder group /
constituency arrived at the perspective(s) set forth below
o Initial comments were drafted by Elisa Cooper and then sent to the entire
Business Constituency for comment and input. Several Business Constituency
members stated their support for comments as written.
- If not indicated otherwise, the WG will consider your submission a SG
/ C position / contribution. Please note that this should not prevent the
submission of individual and/or minority views as part of your submission, as
long as these are clearly identified.
Topics:
The WG is tasked to provide the GNSO Council with a policy recommendation
regarding the use of 'thick' Whois by all gTLD Registries, both existing and
future. As part of its deliberations, the WG is expected to consider the topics
listed below in the context of 'thick' Whois. Please provide your stakeholder
group's / constituency's views, including quantitative and/or empirical
information supporting your views, on these topics in relation to whether or
not to require 'thick' Whois for all gTLDs and/or provide any information that
you think will help the WG in its deliberations (for further information on
each of these topics, please see the WG Charter
https://community.icann.org/x/vIg3Ag):
· Response consistency - a 'thick' Registry can dictate the labeling and
display of Whois information to be sure the information is easy to parse, and
all Registrars/clients would have to display it accordingly. This could be
considered a benefit but also a potential cost. This might also be a benefit in
the context of internationalized registration data as even with the use of
different scripts, uniform data collection and display standards could be
applied.
Your view:
The Business Constituency believes that Whois records should be formatted in a
standardized, uniform manner.
· Stability - in the event of a Registrar business or technical failure,
it could be beneficial to ICANN and registrants to have the full set of domain
registration contact data stored by four organizations (the Registry, the
Registry's escrow agent, the Registrar, and the Registrar's escrow agent),
which would be the case in a 'thick' registry.
Your view:
Yes - the Business Constituency agrees that it could be beneficial to have a
full set of domain registration data stored by four organizations (the
Registry, the Registry's escrow agent, the Registrar, and the Registrar's
escrow agent).
· Accessibility - is the provision of Whois information at the registry
level under the 'thick' Whois model more effective and cost-effective than a
'thin' model in protecting consumers and users of Whois data and intellectual
property owners?
Your view:
In today's current environment, registrars often do not provide complete
information via port 43 - and so users are forced to access Whois records only
from the registrar's website. In other instances registrars limit access to
Whois based on query volumes. Thick Whois offered by the registry would
eliminate these issues for .Com and .Net, where the vast majority of gTLDs are
currently registered.
· Impact on privacy and data protection - how would 'thick' Whois affect
privacy and data protection, also taking into account the involvement of
different jurisdictions with different laws and legislation with regard to data
privacy as well as possible cross border transfers of registrant data?
Your view:
The Business Constituency recognizes that in some cases there may be
jurisdictional privacy issues, but recommends that those issues are handled on
an exception basis via RSEP.
· Cost implications - what are the cost implications of a transition to
'thick' Whois for Registries, Registrars, registrants and other parties for all
gTLDs? Conversely, what are the cost implications to Registries, Registrars,
registrants and other parties if no transition is mandated?
Your view:
The Business Constituency supports unrestricted and public access to accurate
and complete Thick Whois information for all gTLD domain names. Without access
to complete Whois records, businesses are unable to remediate instances of
infringement, abuse or fraud. The costs associated with these activities can be
significant not only to rights owners, but also to victimized Internet users.
· Synchronization/migration - what would be the impact on the registry
and registrar WHOIS and EPP systems for those Registries currently operating a
thin registry, both in the migration phase to 'thick' WHOIS as well as ongoing
operations?
Your view:
The Business Constituency understands that there will likely be costs incurred
on the migration to Thick Whois but reemphasizes the need for unrestricted and
public access of this data.
· Authoritativeness - what are the implications of a 'thin' Registry
possibly becoming authoritative for registrant Whois data following the
transition from a thin-registry model to a thick-registry model. The Working
Group should consider the term "authoritative" in both the technical (the
repository of the authoritative data) and policy (who has authority over the
data) meanings of the word when considering this issue.
Your view:
The Business Constituency believes that when a registry transitions to Thick
Whois that it should become authoritative both from a technical and policy
perspective.
· Competition in registry services - what would be the impact on
competition in registry services should all Registries be required to provide
Whois service using the 'thick' Whois model - would there be more, less or no
difference with regard to competition in registry services?
Your view:
As all new gTLDs registries will be required to support Thick Whois, it seems
more equitable that ALL existing registries also be required to provide Thick
Whois.
· Existing Whois Applications - What, if anything, are the potential
impacts on the providers of third-party WHOIS-related applications if 'thick'
WHOIS is required for all gTLDs?
Your view:
The Business Constituency believes that access to Thick Whois should improve
the services provided by third-party applications.
· Data escrow - 'thick' Whois might obviate the need for the registrar
escrow program and attendant expenses to ICANN and registrars.
A stated above, the Business Constituency believes that it could be beneficial
to have a full set of domain registration data stored by four organizations
(the Registry, the Registry's escrow agent, the Registrar, and the Registrar's
escrow agent).
Your view:
· Registrar Port 43 Whois requirements - 'thick' Whois could make the
requirement for Registrars to maintain Port 43 Whois access redundant.
Your view:
Registrars should continue to provide Whois access via their respective
websites as registrants are familiar with their registrars and may not be aware
of or able to locate the registry's website.
Based on your assessment of these topics, you are also encouraged to indicate
whether you think there should or there shouldn't be a requirement for 'thick'
Whois by all gTLD Registries.
Your view:
The Business Constituency feels strongly that all gTLD registries support Thick
Whois.
If there is any other information you think should be considered by the WG as
part of its deliberations, please feel free to include that here.
Other information:
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