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Re: [gnso-travel-dt] RE: Seoul meeting

  • To: Olga Cavalli <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-travel-dt] RE: Seoul meeting
  • From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:04:00 +0200

Thanks Olga, I had missed that.

Stéphane


Le 02/09/09 18:44, « Olga Cavalli » <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> Dear Stephane,
> please see the comments sent by Kevin to our request about possible available
> funds for retiring councellors.
> It is copied into the travel drafting team emails.
> Regards
> Olga
> 
> "Dear Olga and GNSO Travel Drafting Team,  
> 
> I am aware that there may be more requests to accommodate the extra needs
> arising from the GNSO restructuring for travel support funding than was
> provided in the Travel Support Guidelines. 
> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/  Although we have in the past
> made midyear adjustments to the travel support under Board guidance (e.g.,
> limited GAC travel funding in FY09), in general we are constrained by the
> Guidelines.   I suggest that, if the GNSO decides to request additional
> support, you submit the request and if the budget impact is small, we might be
> able to adjust support.  If the budget impact is significant, we would need to
> consider what process and approvals need to be pursued.
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Kevin"
>   
> 2009/9/2 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
>> What are the final guidelines here? Are ex-councillors being funded or aren¹t
>> they? Sorry if I missed something but it¹s not altogether clear to me.
>> 
>> Stéphane
>> 
>> 
>> Le 02/09/09 16:55, « Anthony Harris » <harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <http://harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > a écrit :
>> 
>>> Dear Kevin,
>>>  
>>> I have consulted with the ISPCP, Business
>>> and IPC Constituencies. Three people who
>>> are stepping down from Council, but remain
>>> engaged in the various restructuring groups,
>>> would need travel funding assistance to be
>>> able to attend the ICANN Seoul meeting:
>>>  
>>> Philip Shephard
>>> Tony Harris
>>> Tony Holmes (since will be on NomCom may only
>>>                           need some hotel/per diem assistance?)
>>>  
>>> Kind regards
>>>  
>>> Tony Harris
>>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  
>>>> From:  Kevin  Wilson <mailto:kevin.wilson@xxxxxxxxx>  
>>>>  
>>>> To: Olga Cavalli <mailto:olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  ; Doug Brent
>>>> <mailto:doug.brent@xxxxxxxxx>   
>>>>  
>>>> Cc: gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx <http://gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>  
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:07  PM
>>>>  
>>>> Subject: [gnso-travel-dt] RE: Seoul  meeting
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Olga and GNSO  Travel Drafting Team,   
>>>>  
>>>> I am aware that  there may be more requests to accommodate the extra needs
>>>> arising from the  GNSO restructuring for travel support funding than was
>>>> provided in the Travel  Support Guidelines.
>>>>  http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/   Although we have in the
>>>> past made midyear adjustments to the travel  support under Board guidance
>>>> (e.g., limited GAC travel funding in FY09), in  general we are constrained
>>>> by the Guidelines.   I suggest that, if  the GNSO decides to request
>>>> additional support, you submit the request and if  the budget impact is
>>>> small, we might be able to adjust support.  If the  budget impact is
>>>> significant, we would need to consider what process and  approvals need to
>>>> be pursued.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Best  regards
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Kevin
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From:  olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx <http://olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> [mailto:olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Olga  Cavalli
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:53 PM
>>>> To: Kevin  Wilson; Doug Brent
>>>> Cc: gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx <http://gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject:  Seoul meeting
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Dear Kevin,
>>>> Perhaps you have  been able to see the exchange of emails in this list.
>>>> One question that has  arised is that if it would be possible to allow some
>>>> of the retiring GNSO  Council members to participating in the Seoul
>>>> meeting.
>>>> We have not reached  an agreement yet among the working team but I would
>>>> like to ask you if, from  the travel funds perspective, this is something
>>>> somehow possible or not.
>>>> I  will appreciate your comments on this regard.
>>>> Best regards and  thanks
>>>> Olga
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message  ----------
>>>> From: Olga Cavalli <olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
>>>> Date:  2009/8/18
>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-travel-dt] RE: Travel drafting team - some  ideas after
>>>> the conference call
>>>> To: Anthony Harris <harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <http://harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
>>>> Cc: "Gomes,  Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx <http://cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >,
>>>>  gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx <http://gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx> , Avri  Doria
>>>> <avri@xxxxxxx <http://avri@xxxxxxx> >, Robert Hoggarth
>>>>  <robert.hoggarth@xxxxxxxxx <http://robert.hoggarth@xxxxxxxxx> >
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Thanks  Tony.
>>>> Could it be a good idea for our team to informally contact Kevin and  / or
>>>> Doug and ask if there is any chance of having any extra funds for Seoul?
>>>>  Or we do already know that there are some?  
>>>> regards
>>>> Olga
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 2009/8/18 Anthony Harris <harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <http://harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree  that Olga has made a good suggestion.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> The  magnitude of the GNSO overhaul activities and
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> discussions, might appear to  justify the initiative to
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> fund some  few retiring council members (yes, I am
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> one of  them), and as I recall it has always been
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> the  custom in ICANN for councillors to step  down
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> at the  end of the Council face-to-face meeting in
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> an  ICANN event., not before.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tony  Harris
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original  Message -----
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Gomes, Chuck <mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To: Olga Cavalli <mailto:olgac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  ;
>>>>>> gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx <http://gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cc: Avri Doria <mailto:avri@xxxxxxx>   ; Robert Hoggarth
>>>>>> <mailto:robert.hoggarth@xxxxxxxxx>   
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August  16, 2009 10:54 AM
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Subject:  [gnso-travel-dt] RE: Travel drafting team - some ideas after
>>>>>> the  conference call
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thanks  Olga.  Regarding your suggestion "One idea could be to ask each
>>>>>> constituency /  stakeholder group about this",  the RyC has started to
>>>>>> work on this.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx <http://olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> [mailto:olgacavalli@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Olga  Cavalli
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:44 PM
>>>>>>> To:  gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx <http://gnso-travel-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Cc: Avri Doria;  Gomes, Chuck; Robert Hoggarth
>>>>>>> Subject: Travel drafting team -  some ideas after the conference call
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I hope you are  doing well, I just finished listening to the conference
>>>>>>> call recording.  As per Avri´s request I am sending some initial notes
>>>>>>> and ideas to share  with you and see how to move forward.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First let me summarize some  comments made during the conference call:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1- Reasons for  allocating additional funding for former councilors:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> * As  this is a particular meeting with changes in structure, continuity
>>>>>>> is  pertinent for a small number of retiring councilors.  
>>>>>>> * Could  be good helping incoming councillors with the assistance of
>>>>>>> former  councilors.  
>>>>>>> * It  is very helpful having more than one representative of a
>>>>>>> constituency  in a face to face ICANN meeting.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2- Other  ideas
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> * New  councilors could participate in conference calls prior to Seoul,
>>>>>>> if we  know who they are.  
>>>>>>> * Could  be good to have a clear understanding of how many would need
>>>>>>> this  funding.  
>>>>>>> * There  should be balance between limited funds and the need for
>>>>>>>  participation.  
>>>>>>> * Constituencies  usually deal with changes at the end of the year and
>>>>>>> these changes  should not be a problem.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3- Reasons for  not  allocating additional funds on former councilors
>>>>>>> attending  meeting:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> * This  is not a special situation for spending money on  coordination.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I also used Rob´s  document as a basis for a preliminary analysis of how
>>>>>>> many former  councilors would need funding for Seoul.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In reviewing the list I  found 10 possible councilors that may not be
>>>>>>> present in the next  meeting,( I excluded Noncom Appointees as their
>>>>>>> participation  follows the normal noncom appointing rules, please tell
>>>>>>> me if this is a  right assumption)
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> * Commercial  Stakeholder group: 6 six  
>>>>>>> * Registries:  1 one  
>>>>>>> * Registrars:  2 two  
>>>>>>> * NCUC:  1 one
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am attaching the  file I drafted for reference.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Some ideas on how to move  forward:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It could be convenient to determine how many former  councilors should
>>>>>>> need funding for Seoul.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> One idea could be to  ask each constituency / stakeholder group about
>>>>>>> this, specially taking  in consideration that
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  "constituencies usually deal with  changes at the end of the year and
>>>>>>> these changes should not be a  problem"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Once we have a clearer idea of how many people should  need extra
>>>>>>> funding ,then we can ask ICANN Staff if this funding is  feasible.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Looking forward to receiving your  comments.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best regards, have a nice  weekend.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Olga
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --  
>>>>>>> Olga Cavalli, Dr. Ing.
>>>>>>> www.south-ssig.com.ar <http://www.south-ssig.com.ar>
>>>>>>> <http://www.south-ssig.com.ar>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

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