Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] poll - Too early to ask these questions

["Phil Buckingham" <pjbuckingham@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yep , I ll fifth this motion.  Please listen to / assess my proposal next
monday.
Jeff 's  paragraph ...."in addition"  ...... re vested interests ( dare I
say it ) is central to my proposal.
Central to all this is to get consensus ( what ever that means )
and " persuade /convince " the ICANN Board  ( at
Brussels - ha ha ) that VI Proposal X , Y  Z  is /are the "best" overall ,
in terms of cost and benefits to old registries , new registries , small
ones  large ones , end users , registrars- everybody involved in the value 
chain.
One thing is certain is that the status quo /baseline ( default position)VI
cannot work / will not work in the new gTLD marketplace.
........ but there are some on here who disagree ... right ????
A secret poll perhaps - but in a couple of weeks time answering keys 
questions that Berry
& Jannik have raised  and I will also raise next week.

regards
Phil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Volker Greimann - Key-Systems GmbH" <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] poll - Too early to ask these questions


> Let me second (third?) this motion as well. I do think it will be
> helpful to collect the opinions regarding the various proposals for an
> early assessment of positions, but there still needs to be a lot of
> discussion regarding the various positions before we can come to an
> actual  vote.
>
> I see a lot of merit in Janniks proposal. Like JC said: Less process
> more substance!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Volker
> > I want to second Statton’s comment here. Having duly listened in on all
> > the calls and read (most) of the emails so far, I am nowhere near a
> > “black and white” view to be put on a poll. Additionaly, the
> > “signal/noise” ratio of the list has made things even harder at times.
> >
> > Maybe we could devote most of Monday’s call to allow for some discussions
> > on the proposals themselves? Less process more substance!
> >
> > Warm regards,
> > Jean-Christophe
> >
> >
> > Le 16/04/10 16:22, « Hammock, Statton » <shammock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > Mikey,
> >
> > I will finally chime in here and support Jeff’s comment that it is a
> > little early to ask for our views on each of the proposals. I do like the
> > idea of the poll but I, personally, need a little more time to analyze
> > the details.  Some of the proposals were just introduced this week, after
> > all.
> >
> > I have been mostly a “lurker” with respect to the e-mail exchanges on the
> > list but I have not been doing so with my hands “folded.”  I regularly
> > take notes on the points being raised by active members of the group and
> > try to map out where consensus might be found given the various
> > viewpoints.  Some of the discussions have struck me as being too
> > theoretical but also practical suggestions and proposals have been
> > introduced and I am trying to focus on them and really try to get a feel
> > on how this should play out.  Waiting another week for the poll would be
> > helpful to me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Statton
> >
> >
> > Statton Hammock
> > Sr. Director, Law, Policy & Business Affairs
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> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neuman, Jeff
> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:01 AM
> > To: gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] poll - Too early to ask these questions
> >
> > Mikey,
> >
> > Although I appreciate the notion of taking polls, I just have the feeling
> > that it is WAY too early to ask the questions that you have on Poll #1.
> > Very few of us understand the implications of each of the proposals
> > enough to be able to comment on whether we support or oppose a particular
> > proposal much less whether we can fill in the comment sections on any
> > revisions that we would propose to that particular proposal.  I thought
> > we were going to form sub-teams to look at the proposals to discuss the
> > pros and cons of each of the proposals in order to potentially come up
> > with some sort of hybrid or consensus driven proposal (if possible).
> >
> > In addition, there is nothing in the survey that asks the responder to
> > declare its interests (namely, (a) to check all that apply….gTLD
> > Registry, gTLD Registrar, New TLD Applicant, New TLD back-end Registry
> > Services Provider, etc., and (b) are you in favor of integration or
> > separation….).  I just think that coming out of this survey saying x
> > number of people support this proposal without the essential context is
> > going to be misleading especially with this group being so stacked with
> > New TLD applicants, registries, registry services providers and
> > registrars).
> >
> > I would strongly ask that we withdraw this survey for this week in favor
> > of proceeding as initially proposed.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Jeffrey J. Neuman
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