Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Neustar Concerns with Afilias Proposals
<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>All,<br><br>I'll echo Statton's thoughts below, and reiterate that we really need to focus on the harms at issue, the risk of those harms, and what is the best, most broadly supported way to prevent those harms. If we are not doing that, then we are not serving the purpose that this WG was formed for. <br><br>In this spirit, I urge those that support the idea of preventing nTLD registries from obtaining back end services from third-party providers of their choosing to describe in detail the kinds of harm that allowing this freedom-to-contract will enable (and note that this debate is not about VI any more, but really about the Third Party Contracting Restrictions - "TPC Restriction - that ICANN should place on new TLD operators). <br><br>To my mind there are really two fears that someone could point to justify this type of TPC Restriction: (1) fear that it will enable gaming and (2) fear of change. With regard to the first, I continue to look forward to an explanation of this rationale because, thus far, I have just not heard/read any compelling description of why/how this would work in this context in real life. With regard to the second, I just do not believe that fear of change is a justifiable reason in and of itself. I can understand a conservatism in the context of ICANN's core technical coordination - we need to be SURE that anything we do will not 'break' the Internet, but in this less technical realm, such constrictive conservatism is, to my mind, very, very ill-placed. Could such change disrupt existing business models? Probably, but is that what we are seeking to protect? Certainly not - as we all agree, protecting this or that business model is not what we are here to do. <br><br>Lastly, perhaps the most concerning aspect of this desire to entrench TPC Restrictions in the nTLD space is because I doubt that this would be the only one. Once it is clear that the inclusion of discretionary (at least arguably) restrictions on on the table, I have no doubt that more will follow. Who will be the first to suggest that new Registries assist in capacity building by preferring vendors from countries with less developed Internet infrastructure? I am not sure, but I bet it will be in the offing once we decide that we don't trust registries enough make good decisions (or heck, even decisions we don't like or do not believe are altruistic enough) about who they contract with.<br><br>As we move closer and closer to Brussels, I get more and more excited about getting to the nut of this issue and look forward to more discussion. <br><br>Thanks,<br>Gray <br><span><br>Graham H. Chynoweth<br>General Counsel & VP, Business Operations<br>Dynamic Network Services, Inc.<br>1230 Elm Street, 5th Floor<br>Manchester, NH 03101<br>(p) +1.603.296.1515<br>(e) gchynoweth@xxxxxxx<br>(w) http://www.dyn.com<br><br>Confidentiality Statement<br><br>Privileged and Confidential. 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This message is not intended as an electronic signature.<br><br></span><br><hr><b>From: </b>"Statton Hammock" <shammock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><br><b>To: </b>"Jeff Neuman" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, June 4, 2010 8:12:59 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Neustar Concerns with Afilias Proposals<br><br> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style> <![endif]--> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!--a:link {mso-style-priority:99;} span.MSOHYPERLINK {mso-style-priority:99;} a:visited {mso-style-priority:99;} span.MSOHYPERLINKFOLLOWED {mso-style-priority:99;} /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Trebuchet MS"; panose-1:2 11 6 3 2 2 2 2 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:Calibri;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Calibri; color:windowtext;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Trebuchet MS"; color:navy; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none none;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> <div class="Section1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: navy;">All,</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: navy;"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: navy;">I share Jeff N.’s concerns over the strict interpretation of the Afilias/PIR/GoDaddy proposal, particularly the restriction on a registrar from owning a registry or back-end registry operator that is not offering a TLD distributed by the registrar. I agree with Jeff that this is unnecessarily restrictive and anti-competitive and I have not heard any justification for this line of thinking. </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: navy;"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: navy;">Statton</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: navy;"> </span></font></p> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="gray" face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: gray; font-weight: bold;"> Statton Hammock <br> </span></font></b><font color="gray" face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: gray;"> Sr. Director, Law, Policy & Business Affairs </span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p> </div> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; width: 264.75pt; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;" width="353" bgcolor="white" border="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody><tr style="height: 0.25in;"> <td style="padding: 1.5pt; width: 73.5pt; height: 0.25in;" valign="top" width="98" height="24"> <p><font color="navy" face="Trebuchet MS" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: navy;"><img src="cid:image001.gif@01CB0422.53D49130" id="_x0000_i1027" width="120" height="31"> border=0></span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p> </td> <td style="padding: 1.5pt; height: 0.25in;" valign="top" height="24"> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><strong><b><font color="#666666" face="Calibri" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">P</span></font></b></strong><font color="#666666" face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"> </span></font><font color="#666666" face="Trebuchet MS" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">703-668-5515 </span></font><strong><b><font color="#666666" face="Calibri" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">M </span></font></b></strong><font color="#666666" face="Trebuchet MS" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">703-624-5031 </span></font><font color="gray" face="Trebuchet MS" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: gray;"><a href="http://www.networksolutions.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.networksolutions.com" target="_blank">www.networksolutions.com</a></span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;"></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#666666" face="Trebuchet MS" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Trebuchet MS"; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"> </span></font></p> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman";"> <hr width="100%" align="center" size="2"> </span></font></div> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] <b><strong>On Behalf Of </strong></b>Neuman, Jeff<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 04, 2010 2:02 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [gnso-vi-feb10] Neustar Concerns with Afilias Proposals</span></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></font></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">All,</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I just wanted to go on the record with Neustar’s concerns over a strict interpretation of the “Afilias/PIR/Go-Daddy/Some ALAC members” proposal. As you know from the beginning, Neustar has opposed the complete vertical integration of registries and registrars because of all of the harms to registrants that have been previously expressed in letters we have helped co-author as well as the damaging effect on ensuring a level-competitive playing field amongst registries, registrars, back-end operators, etc. However, our concerns have been confined to the vertical integration/cross-ownership within a TLD as opposed to a general notion of cross ownership. What I mean is that we have never supported the notion that a registry or back-end registry operator could not distribute domain names in a TLD for which it was not the registry or back-end operator. This is not necessarily because Neustar wants to be a registrar, reseller or distributor for .com, .net or any new TLDs, but rather that we do not see any justification or any potential harms that would occur cross TLDs. In fact, we believe that Afilias’ proposal would have the effect of preventing any existing registrar or reseller from becoming a registry or back-end operator in any TLD even if they agree not to distribute names in that TLD.</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">To us, that is by definition anti-competitive and would unnecessarily restrict new entrants into the registry/back-end registry service provider market without any justification. Similarly, it would restrict new entrants into the registrar market as well simply because they serve as a registry in a separate TLD. Preventing a Demand Media, Network Solutions, GoDaddy, Tucows, GMO or any registrar from being in the registry business completely is not what Neustar had in mind and is not something we can or should get behind. Similarly, preventing an existing or future registry/registry service provider from becoming a registrar or reseller in other TLDs is not what we have advocated. </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">To summarize, I do believe strongly in strict limits to vertical integration and cross ownership within a TLD and believe that without such limits and protections, consumers and registrants will be harmed. I know there are others that dispute that and that is something we will work in the long term. But we have not seen any evidence of potential harms cross TLDs nor have we heard a justification for it. I prefer the JN2 Proposal because it contemplates this scenario. The only way we could support another proposal like the Afilias one, is to address the cross TLD issue.</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">P.S. – we know the ICANN proposal is similar to the Afilias one in this respect and therefore will probably be making the same comments to the DAG.</span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt;"><b><font face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Jeffrey J. 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