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Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Neustar Concerns with Afilias Proposals

  • To: Statton Hammock <shammock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Neustar Concerns with Afilias Proposals
  • From: Graham Chynoweth <gchynoweth@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:15:33 -0400 (EDT)

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#000000'>All,<br><br>I'll echo Statton's thoughts below, and reiterate that we 
really need to focus on the harms at issue, the risk of those harms, and what 
is the best, most broadly supported way to prevent those harms. &nbsp; If we 
are not doing that, then we are not serving the purpose that this WG was formed 
for.&nbsp; <br><br>In this spirit, I urge those that support the idea of 
preventing nTLD registries from obtaining back end services from third-party 
providers of their choosing to describe in detail the kinds of harm that 
allowing this freedom-to-contract will enable (and note that this debate is not 
about VI any more, but really about the Third Party Contracting Restrictions - 
"TPC Restriction - that ICANN should place on new TLD operators). <br><br>To my 
mind there are really two fears that someone could point to justify this type 
of TPC Restriction: (1) fear that it will enable gaming and (2) fear of 
change.&nbsp; With regard to the first, I continue to look forward to an 
explanation of this rationale because, thus far, I have just not heard/read any 
compelling description of why/how this would work in this context in real 
life.&nbsp; With regard to the second, I just do not believe that fear of 
change is a justifiable reason in and of itself.&nbsp;&nbsp; I can understand a 
conservatism in the context of ICANN's core technical coordination - we need to 
be SURE that anything we do will not 'break' the Internet, but in this less 
technical realm, such constrictive conservatism is, to my mind, very, very 
ill-placed.&nbsp;&nbsp; Could such change disrupt existing business 
models?&nbsp; Probably, but is that what we are seeking to protect?&nbsp; 
Certainly not - as we all agree, protecting this or that business model is not 
what we are here to do.&nbsp; <br><br>Lastly, perhaps the most concerning 
aspect of this desire to entrench TPC Restrictions in the nTLD space is because 
I doubt that this would be the only one.&nbsp; Once it is clear that the 
inclusion of discretionary (at least arguably) restrictions on on the table, I 
have no doubt that more will follow.&nbsp; Who will be the first to suggest 
that new Registries assist in capacity building by preferring vendors from 
countries with less developed Internet infrastructure?&nbsp;&nbsp; I am not 
sure, but I bet it will be in the offing once we decide that we don't trust 
registries enough make good decisions (or heck, even decisions we don't like or 
do not believe are altruistic enough) about who they contract with.<br><br>As 
we move closer and closer to Brussels, I get more and more excited about 
getting to the nut of this issue and look forward to more discussion. 
<br><br>Thanks,<br>Gray <br><span><br>Graham H. Chynoweth<br>General Counsel 
&amp; VP, Business Operations<br>Dynamic Network Services, Inc.<br>1230 Elm 
Street, 5th Floor<br>Manchester, NH 03101<br>(p) +1.603.296.1515<br>(e) 
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signature.<br><br></span><br><hr><b>From: </b>"Statton Hammock" 
&lt;shammock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Jeff Neuman" 
&lt;Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx&gt;, Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, 
June 4, 2010 8:12:59 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Neustar Concerns 
with Afilias Proposals<br><br>




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share Jeff N.’s
concerns over the strict interpretation of the Afilias/PIR/GoDaddy proposal,
particularly the restriction on a registrar from owning a registry or back-end
registry operator that is not offering a TLD distributed by the registrar. 
&nbsp;I
agree with Jeff that this is unnecessarily restrictive and anti-competitive and
I have not heard any justification for this line of thinking. 
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owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] 
<b><strong>On Behalf Of </strong></b>Neuman, Jeff<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 04, 2010 2:02
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [gnso-vi-feb10] Neustar
Concerns with Afilias Proposals</span></font><font face="Times New Roman" 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 
11pt;">I
just wanted to go on the record with Neustar’s concerns over a strict
interpretation of the “Afilias/PIR/Go-Daddy/Some ALAC members”
proposal.&nbsp; As you know from the beginning, Neustar has opposed the
complete vertical integration of registries and registrars because of all of
the harms to registrants that have been previously expressed in letters we have
helped co-author as well as the damaging effect on ensuring a level-competitive
playing field amongst registries, registrars, back-end operators, etc.&nbsp;
However, our concerns have been confined to the vertical
integration/cross-ownership within a TLD as opposed to a general notion of
cross ownership.&nbsp; What I mean is that we have never supported the notion
that a registry or back-end registry operator could not distribute domain names
in a TLD for which it was not the registry or back-end operator.&nbsp; This is
not necessarily because Neustar wants to be a registrar, reseller or
distributor for .com, .net or any new TLDs, but rather that we do not see any
justification or any potential harms that would occur cross TLDs.&nbsp; In
fact, we believe that Afilias’ proposal would have the effect of
preventing any existing registrar or reseller from becoming a registry or
back-end operator in any TLD even if they agree not to distribute names in that
TLD.</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 
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us, that is by definition anti-competitive and would unnecessarily restrict new
entrants into the registry/back-end registry service provider market without
any justification.&nbsp; Similarly, it would restrict new entrants into the
registrar market as well simply because they serve as a registry in a separate
TLD.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Preventing a Demand Media, Network Solutions, GoDaddy,
Tucows, GMO or any registrar from being in the registry business completely is
not what Neustar had in mind and is not something we can or should get
behind.&nbsp; Similarly, preventing an existing or future registry/registry
service provider from becoming a registrar or reseller in other TLDs is not
what we have advocated. &nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 
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summarize, I do believe strongly in strict limits to vertical integration and
cross ownership within a TLD and believe that without such limits and
protections, consumers and registrants will be harmed.&nbsp; I know there are
others that dispute that and that is something we will work in the long
term.&nbsp; But we have not seen any evidence of potential harms cross TLDs nor
have we heard a justification for it.&nbsp; I prefer the JN2 Proposal because
it contemplates this scenario.&nbsp; The only way we could support another
proposal like the Afilias one, is to address the cross TLD 
issue.</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size: 
11pt;">P.S.
– we know the ICANN proposal is similar to the Afilias one in this
respect and therefore will probably be making the same comments to the 
DAG.</span></font></p>

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