Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Caution about results from Original Poll

[Antony Van Couvering <avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote:

> "Free trade seemed to me like a write in vote, almost like writing in the 
> name homer simpson when casting your vote if you don't like any of the 
> parties or candidates during election time."
> 
> This is an interesting observation.  I truly believe regulation ought not to 
> be on whim or caprice.  And in the case of new gTLDs - something we are 
> constantly told is evolved thinking - the a priori cross-ownership 
> disabilities represent just that. 
> 
> Whatever makes the 15% cap - or any other number for that matter - the magic 
> number for which VI becomes dangerous to everything it sees?  2%?  Peachy!  
> 10%? Good to go!  13%?  For they are jolly good fellows!  15%?  Whoa! Gotta 
> keep my eye on you!  16%?  You common crook, you!!
> 
> And I'm making it as simple as it can be.
> 
> Some soundings say it is historical but for all we know, it may well 
> represent the musings of  some slack-jawed clerk somewhere in the 
> bureaucracy...or the rattles of a simple mind. Let me hear a successful 
> contradiction to that and I will change my mind. 
> 
> Carlton Samuels
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> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jothan Frakes <jothan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I wasn't confused at all about the poll.
> 
> These are complex issues and it was a matter of picking the proposal that had 
> the most of what one agrees with and the least of what one disagreed with.
> 
> It would be inappropriate, I think, to take the results of the poll as 
> anything indicative of group conscience without indicating it was a rough 
> poll.
> 
> Free trade seemed to me like a write in vote, almost like writing in the name 
> homer simpson when casting your vote if you don't like any of the parties or 
> candidates during election time.
> 
> The newer, atomic poll seems a wise place to gauge the group.
> 
> On a lighter note, I concur with Jeff on his assessment of the chaos that 
> ensues with ice cream and 5 year olds.  I think if we could have hamster 
> wheels at these birthday parties that could be tied to generators, many 
> energy problems could be lessened.  But let's not keep on that topic for fear 
> I be branded a proponent of child labor.  Just thinking about the 
> environmental impact.
> 
> jothan frakes
> 
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>> On Jun 16, 2010 7:01 AM, "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>>  
>> I do believe the first poll on the proposals was in fact useful and a really 
>> good exercise.  And I am not just saying that because the JN2 proposal got 
>> the most “yes” votes.  My caution, however, is that some are now describing 
>> the “Free Trade” proposal as the one that most people support because of the 
>> number of people that either said “yes” or “can live with.”  I do not 
>> believe that view is entirely accurate.  This is because both the JN2 
>> proposal and the RACK+ proposal both dealt with limitations on 
>> ownership/control.  People were divided on how exactly to limit 
>> ownership/control, but not on the concept of whether to apply restrictions.
>> 
>>  
>> The analogy I use is my oldest daughter’s birthday party this year where the 
>> kids had a choice of “Mixed Fruit”, “Chocolate Ice Cream” or “Vanilla Ice 
>> Cream”.   7 kids (surprisingly) chose mixed fruit, 6 kids chose chocolate 
>> ice cream and 6 kids chose “Vanilla Ice Cream”.  So of the 19 kids at the 
>> party, more of them chose Fruit than any other choice, so that would be a 
>> true statement.  However, it would also be true that more kids choice “Ice 
>> Cream” in general instead of fruit.
>> 
>>  
>> Here we have the same type of thing.  Taken one way, more people chose the 
>> Free Trade Proposal than chose RACK.  But, looked at a different way, more 
>> people chose to apply limits on cross ownership/control than chose Free 
>> Trade.
>> 
>>  
>> We just need to remember the ice cream/mixed fruit analogy going forward.
>> 
>>  
>> P.S.  Never have a party with 19 screaming 5 year olds and offer them ice 
>> cream….very messy and the sugar high afterwards is a killer J
>> 
>>  
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