Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] New Proposal & ccTLDs

[Antony Van Couvering <avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The business, regulatory, and advisory arrangements with governments ccTLDs 
vary across the board, from complete government control to complete 
non-involvement.  The level of consumer harm, as far as I can tell, is similar. 
The level of investment, revenue, innovation, and domain volume, however, is 
inversely correlated to restrictive policies. And as a rule, the more 
government involvement, the more restrictive the policies.   Compare, for 
instance, the hands-off regulatory regime of Germany with the 
command-and-control style that has characterized .it or .fr, and then look at 
registration volumes. I suppose you could say that because there are fewer 
customers, there are correspondingly fewer harms, but that is cold comfort.  

Sent from my handheld.   

On Jun 22, 2010, at 12:55, "Ron Andruff" <randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> Volker,
> 
> Often is has been noted that ccTLDs operate without consumer harm, but
> (while I don't know this as fact and welcome others to confirm or clarify)
> it appears to me that most ccTLDs have significant government oversight or
> are run by governments, academic institutions or not-for-profits.  I am
> aware that some smaller nations have outsourced and contracted operations to
> commercial entities, but the larger measure is as noted above.  If I am
> correct in my understanding, it is understandable that there has been less
> harm in that group of TLD operators and thus the argument about ccTLDs is,
> in fact, not a supporting one for VI.
> 
> If I am incorrect, I welcome corrections to my understanding.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> RA
> 
> Ronald N. Andruff
> RNA Partners, Inc.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Volker Greimann
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:27 AM
> To: Jeff Eckhaus
> Cc: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] New Proposal
> 
> 
> While this proposal may be a step in the right direction, especially 
> when considering the new additions for RSPs, I see it lacking in many 
> respects. The blind focus of the 15% limit as a fix-all without 
> addressing any of the perceived harms should be seen as what it is: 
> simple protectionism of the interests of current providers by keeping 
> registrars from the registry market. 
> 
> I therefore propose to reintroduce the most crucial exception of the JN2 
> proposal: allowing Registrars to act as Registries provided they agree 
> not to sell or resell their own TLD, especially in the case of community 
> TDs. Please bear in mind that many ccTLDs operate successfully and 
> without consumer harm selling their own TLDs, so we registrars are 
> already making a huge concession here, in fact this is the line I will 
> not be able go beyond.
> 
> Please also define the term structural seperation. Will it require 
> seperate executive staff, support staff, or seperation of system? Any 
> such seperation will drive up the price of operations. While I agree 
> that financial seperation makes absolute sense, I do not see this for 
> structural seperation of it means what I think it does.
> 
> It is lacking a policy review procedure, which is needed to ease up the 
> requirements in the light of experience.
> 
> 
> 
> Volker
>> One question -  does this proposal restrict a Registrar  from
> participating in the gTLD round as an applicant? 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jon Nevett
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:57 AM
>> To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] New Proposal 
>> 
>> 
>> VI WG Colleagues:
>> 
>> Here is a very high level proposal that is coming out of our subgroup
> conversations (not every member of the subgroup supports)
>> 
>> We are looking for a catchy name -- any ideas?  (nothing offensive Milton)
>> 
>> 
>> New Proposal
>> 
>> **15% restriction going both ways, including resellers and Registry
> Service Providers (Back-end technical service providers) regardless of TLD
> -- taken from RACK
>> 
>> **Exception for Single Registrant Single User for corporate use only --
> (sub group believed that exception was not necessary as registry schedule of
> reserved names already provides for this, but good to have in contract for
> clarity) -- mostly taken from JN2
>> 
>> **Exception for back-end (RSP) IF a) RSP doesn't control registry or its
> policy, pricing and registrar selection; b) there is structural separation
> between RSP function and affiliated registrar function; AND c) RSP has
> direct contract with ICANN requiring data
> security/confidentiality/structural separation with graduated sanctions
> including de-accreditation for any violations -- new idea
>> 
>> **Use of registrars required; registry may select based on objective
> criteria; Non Discrimination & Equal Access for registrars selected -- taken
> from JN2
>> 
>> **Group continues work on Single Registrant Multiple User and
> Community/Orphan exceptions -- not necessary to be in place at time of final
> AG
>> 
>> 
>> Looking forward to discussing on Thursday.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> 
> 
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