RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Private GNSO Council meeting with Board on VI

["Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Agree that this issue should not dominate the Thursday meeting.  I will be 
bringing up the blatant attempt to end-around the PDP in other places 
especially as I have become incredibly sensitized to the PDP in serving as the 
chair of the PDP-WT for the past year+.

That said, I am still waiting for a summary of what was discussed.  If the 
Councilors on this group would like to document what was discussed on e-mail 
today, we do not have to take any time discussing it on Thursday.  So if the 
Councilors on this WG could please reply with a summary, then at least with 
respect to this subject in this WG, the issue can be put behind us.

Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy

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From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Antony Van Couvering
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:01 AM
To: Ron Andruff
Cc: 'Gomes, Chuck'; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Private GNSO Council meeting with Board on VI

We have a lot of work to do.  I would not like to see the in-person meeting on 
Thursday dominated by this question, or indeed to spend any time on it during 
this precious face-to-face time.

I feel compelled to note, however, that it is highly dispiriting to commit to 
hard work, and then spend months doing it, only to find that someone is doing 
an end-around, whatever the reasons.  If people are to do the work, they must 
have trust in the process.   Corrosion of trust is very difficult to repair.

Having been on the receiving end of patronizing lectures from councillors about 
why such-and-such is impossible because it would violate a certain 
sub-sub-paragraph of GNSO rules, I am more than a little annoyed to find that 
when it is convenient, the entire council has apparently disregarded the major 
principle of the GNSO -- bottom-up policy development -- without so much as a 
whimper.   I have no doubt that it was done with the best of intentions -- but 
don't we all feel that we act with the best of intentions?

I for one would like to see a thorough explanation, but at a later time, in the 
bright light of day.  Our in-person meeting should be devoted to finding a 
solution to the vertical integration question, and that important task should 
not be put aside simply to listen to private justifications for what appears to 
be a pre-emption of our policy prerogative.   That would simply be to double 
the damage.

Ron Andruff wisely suggests leaving this decision to our co-chairs, so I offer 
my thoughts as a WG member's opinion only.

Antony



On Jun 23, 2010, at 1:16 AM, Ron Andruff wrote:


Chuck, I leave that to our co-chairs.

Kind regards,

RA

Ronald N. Andruff
President

RNA Partners, Inc.
220 Fifth Avenue
New York, New York 10001
+ 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11

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From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:51 PM
To: Ron Andruff; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Private GNSO Council meeting with Board on VI

Ron,

If the co-chairs would like me to answer these questions, I would be happy to 
do so for the entire WG but I think that would be much easier to do in person, 
possibly at your in-person meeting which I think is being held on Thursday.  
The reason I suggest that is because I suspect that my answers to your 
questions will generate other questions and so on and because there were a lot 
of factors involved.

Chuck

From: Ron Andruff [mailto:randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:27 AM
To: Gomes, Chuck; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Private GNSO Council meeting with Board on VI

Thank you for letting us know, Chuck.  Two questions:


 1.  On what basis did you call a meeting with the board on a topic that has 
been delegated to a WG?
 2.  Why were the co-chairs of the WG not invited?

I'm not trying to take this WG off on a tangent for but, for many of us, this 
meeting does appear highly unusual and somewhat discomfiting.

Thanks,

RA

Ronald N. Andruff
RNA Partners, Inc.


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From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:57 AM
To: Ron Andruff; Neuman, Jeff; 
Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Private GNSO Council meeting with Board on VI

Ron,

I called it.

Chuck

From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Andruff
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:19 AM
To: 'Neuman, Jeff'; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Private GNSO Council meeting with Board on VI

Agreed, Jeff.  It is completely inappropriate for the Council to meet with the 
Board on a topic that has been given to a Working Group to determine.  I would 
also be interested in knowing who called this meeting as well.

RA

Ronald N. Andruff
RNA Partners, Inc.


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From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neuman, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:32 AM
To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] Private GNSO Council meeting with Board on VI

I understand that yesterday a "private" meeting was called between the GNSO 
Council and Board members on Vertical Integration.  Can a councilor please (1) 
explain to us why this meeting was called with the Council as opposed to the VI 
Group and (2) document for the record what was discussed and/or decided.

I plan on addressing this separately, but I am not sure that these types of 
meetings should occur especially when the issue is under the jurisdiction of 
the Working Group NOT the Council.  This is contrary to the bottom up process.

Best regards,

Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
46000 Center Oak Plaza Sterling, VA 20166
Office: +1.571.434.5772  Mobile: +1.202.549.5079  Fax: +1.703.738.7965 / 
jeff.neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jeff.neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx>  / 
www.neustar.biz<http://www.neustar.biz/>
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