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Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Initial Report -- Release-candidate draft is out on the wiki

  • To: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Initial Report -- Release-candidate draft is out on the wiki
  • From: Antony Van Couvering <avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:58:02 -0700

I see that the kitchen sink full of specific compliance measures, which were 
never discussed, much less agreed to, and of which many only make sense in 
certain models, are back in the compliance draft.   They certainly cannot be 
qualified as principles that I agree with -- and others have seconded this.  

The compliance draft states:  "Where there seems to be agreement is in the 
notion that an effect Compliance function is needed -- to increase confidence 
that harmful behavior will be quickly identified and stopped, and to provide 
better information upon which to base policy in the future."  I with agree to 
this, but in a general sense only.  This sentence, followed by the kitchen sink 
list, suggest that there "seems to be agreement" on the kitchen sink.   There 
isn't.  That is a mischaracterization. 

The drafter of this list first ignored my timely comment, which was seconded by 
Milton Mueller, and subsequently suggested that my amendments, which I provided 
in a red-lined Word doc, were too late and without support.  Neither of these 
implications are true, and I strongly object to my entirely reasonable points 
being ignored.

Apart from the fact that many of these items don't make any logical sense from 
the perspective of ICANN enforcement, a drafter for a group has an obligation 
to be neutral and listen to others, air objections, and try to find consensus.  
 This happened in the exceptions drafting group, where my suggestions were 
overruled by the others.  That was fair, and I acceded to their correct 
observations that my suggestions did not have consensus either in the wider 
group or within our drafting subgroup.  

In the compliance group, however, things have proceeded rather differently.  
Even when I proposed alternate language, and others agreed with me, we were 
ignored.  

If the itemized list of compliance measures stay in there, I will have to 
forcefully dissent.  These items are a wish-list of the drafter, and not the 
result of group input.  

Antony


On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:

> 
> hi all,
> 
> the latest (and hopefully final) version of the Initial Report is out on the 
> wiki.  here's the link;
> 
>       
> https://st.icann.org/vert-integration-pdp/index.cgi?initial_report_snapshots
> 
> i think we've achieved reasonable balance -- a report that everybody dislikes 
> about equally.  :-)
> 
> mikey
> 
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