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RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] chat transcript from today's meeting

To: "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] chat transcript from today's meeting
From: "Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:50:59 -0700
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font-size:10pt;"><div>Right, but I guess I take the recent GAC letter as 
another attempt using newer (or reconstructed)&nbsp;arguments&nbsp;to get the 
Board to reconsider the objection process.&nbsp;I would hope that it at this 
point the Board could simply say "see our previous responses." But you never 
know.<BR></div>
<div><BR></div>
<div>Tim </div>
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<DIV id=wmQuoteWrapper>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: RE: 
[gnso-vi-feb10] chat transcript from today's meeting<BR>From: "Roberto Gaetano" 
&lt;<a href="mailto:roberto@xxxxxxxxx";>roberto@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<BR>Date: Mon, 
August 09, 2010 3:26 pm<BR>To: "'Mike O'Connor'" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx";>mike@xxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;, &lt;<a 
href="mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx";>Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406232320-09082010><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Wrt Tim's comment:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406232320-09082010><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 
size=3>&nbsp;Tim Ruiz:Ahh, the GAC again. I'm sure you saw Peter's response as 
well.</FONT><BR>I believe that Peter has not responded yet.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406232320-09082010><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Last week's letter from Board to GAC was in response to 
GAC's letter from March.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406232320-09082010><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>It will take a while until the Board replies to this one, 
as there needs to be at least a discussion before.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406232320-09082010><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406232320-09082010><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>Roberto</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <a 
href="mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx";>owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx</a> 
[<a 
href="mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx</a>]
 <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mike O'Connor<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 09 August 2010 
22:19<BR><B>To:</B> <a 
href="mailto:Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx";>Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx</a><BR><B>Subject:</B>
 [gnso-vi-feb10] chat transcript from today's meeting<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>hi all, 
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<DIV>here's the chat transcript from our meeting today</DIV>
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<DIV>mikey<BR>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: 
'Helvetica'"><B>From: </B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: 
'Helvetica'"><A href="mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank>mike@xxxxxxxxxx</A><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: 
'Helvetica'"><B>Date: </B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: 
'Helvetica'">August 9, 2010 3:17:21 PM CDT<BR></SPAN></DIV>
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'Helvetica'"><A href="mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank>mike@xxxxxxxxxx</A><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium; FONT-FAMILY: 
'Helvetica'"><B>Subject: </B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium; 
FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'"><B>Adobe Acrobat Connect Pro - Chat Transcript from 
Vertical Integration</B><BR></SPAN></DIV>
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'Helvetica'"><B>Reply-To: </B></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: medium; 
FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'"><A href="mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank>mike@xxxxxxxxxx</A><BR></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV>&nbsp;Roberto:Hi, all.<BR>&nbsp;Amadeu Abril i 
Abril:hi<BR>&nbsp;Roberto:Not much traffi on the list. Hope the call is well 
attended, though.<BR>&nbsp;ken stubbs:good evening<BR>&nbsp;ken stubbs:is this 
document available by email ?<BR>&nbsp;Jeffrey Eckhaus:I can send to the list 
now with the few updates that I had<BR>&nbsp;Jeffrey Eckhaus:from submissions 
by others<BR>&nbsp;ken stubbs:plz do ....<BR>&nbsp;Jeffrey 
Eckhaus:sent<BR>&nbsp;ken stubbs:thx<BR>&nbsp;Roberto:Mid summer night's 
dream?<BR>&nbsp;Jothan Frakes:Thanks Jeff<BR>&nbsp;CLO:buzz on the 
line?<BR>&nbsp;Jothan Frakes:someone's light sabre is too close to the 
phone<BR>&nbsp;Jeffrey Eckhaus:Have not seen it<BR>&nbsp;Ron A:Didn't arrive on 
the list, as far as I can see.<BR>&nbsp;Jothan Frakes:could this be shared with 
the list now?<BR>&nbsp;Roberto:i sent it<BR>&nbsp;Jothan Frakes:Thanks roberto. 
&nbsp;I suspect that it sounds like that is not the formal memo until it has 
review from Kristina Rosette, just so folks on the WG understand that it is 
subject to change<BR>&nbsp;Keith Drazek:i just joined fyi<BR>&nbsp;Ron A:Thanks 
for the clarification, Jeff E. &nbsp;All clear.<BR>&nbsp;Jeffrey 
Eckhaus:Sure<BR>&nbsp;avri:if they want to do so fine, but there is no reason 
to have to do so.<BR>&nbsp;Keith Drazek:+1 jeff, I'd also add that some 
companies/individuals may have changed positions since earlier letters were 
written and made public<BR>&nbsp;avri:will Margie have to check with everyone 
to make sure they agree with the summary?<BR>&nbsp;CLO:Roberto has sent Scotts 
memo to the list &nbsp;though<BR>&nbsp;avri:why ca't we get to a document 
before the end of the review cycle?<BR>&nbsp;Gisella Gruber-White:Apologies 
from Michele Neylon<BR>&nbsp;Roberto:@CLO my undeerstanding was that Scott 
intended to send it to the list and it did not go. Did I 
misunderstood?<BR>&nbsp;Jeffrey Eckhaus:I received Scott Austin's document. 
Roberto sent it out in the last 30 minutes<BR>&nbsp;Sivasubramanian M:If the 
course of our PDP depnds on the outcome of the Board's reaction, why not take 
it easy till we hear from the Board?<BR>&nbsp;Sivasubramanian M:Is it necessary 
to distinguish harms as harms from VI and harms from Vertical separateion? 
&nbsp;Why don't we examine harms as harms and propose solutions?<BR>&nbsp;Tim 
Ruiz:+1 Sebastien<BR>&nbsp;avri:other issues - does that mean WAPO/WoPo and 
recommendation 6?<BR>&nbsp;Tim Ruiz:WhatPO?<BR>&nbsp;ken stubbs:+1 
jeff<BR>&nbsp;Gisella Gruber-White:Kristina Rosette has joined the 
call<BR>&nbsp;Roberto:@JeffE indeed, let's issue another "call for harm 
items"<BR>&nbsp;avri:Serious question? &nbsp;the new 'overarching issues' i.e. 
the gac letter to the board: <A 
href="http://gac.icann.org/system/files/GAC_on_MoPo_August_4_2010_0.pdf"; 
target=_blank>http://gac.icann.org/system/files/GAC_on_MoPo_August_4_2010_0.pdf</A>
 - i assume this is one of those other issues that may give VIWG more time to 
walk in circles around the tree.<BR>&nbsp;Jeffrey Eckhaus:@Roberto - 
OK<BR>&nbsp;Gisella Gruber-White:Phil Buckingham joined the call<BR>&nbsp;ken 
stubbs:+1 on avri's comment above<BR>&nbsp;Brian Cute:yes<BR>&nbsp;Jothan 
Frakes: lol mikey<BR>&nbsp;Alan Greenberg:I am now on call.<BR>&nbsp;Tim 
Ruiz:Ahh, the GAC again. I'm sure you saw Peter's response as 
well.<BR>&nbsp;CLO:Bye all<BR>&nbsp;Sivasubramanian M:Bye<BR>&nbsp;avri:Peter's 
repsonse was to the older missive. &nbsp;Not to this one. &nbsp;this is a newly 
reopened wound.<BR>&nbsp;Sébastien:thanks and 
bye<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>
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