Re: [gnso-whois-study] Documents for tomorrow's call

[Patrick Jones <patrick.jones@xxxxxxxxx>]

Eric,

Thanks for correcting me. I had jumped ahead by reading recommendation #3 in 
the SSAC document as calling for looking at the IDN implications of WHOIS. The 
section does state that "SSAC encourages the ICANN community to study the 
standards developed by the IETF's Cross Registry Information Service Protocol 
(CRISP) Working Group. In particular, SSAC urges the GNSO to consider the
requirements for CRISP identified in RFC 3707 and the set of RFCs associated 
with the Internet Registry Information Service (IRIS) (RFCs 3981 - 3983) which 
appear to provide sufficient features and services to meet the needs of the 
domain registration community."

I would be interested to know more about these developments and support for 
IDNs.

For the benefit of the group, here is the link to the 18 Sept 2003 
announcement: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-18sep03.htm. I 
believe this was a precursor to the work of the previous Whois Task Force which 
came to an end in the LA meeting in October 2007. I am not aware of the IDN 
issues identified in the Carthage Meeting Whois Workshop being addressed in a 
subsequent ICANN document, but I might be wrong (see 
http://www.icann.org/carthage/whois-workshop-agenda.htm).

Patrick

On 5/12/08 10:49 PM, "Eric Brunner-Williams" <ebw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Patrick,

First, there is nothing in sac027 that relates to IDNs. Second, I've
been trying to fix-or-kill whois since ... IETF-49 and IETF-51, so
"earlier" is the correct answer. Third, the intersection between Steve
and Dave's memo and ASCII strings that begin in "xn--" is ... zero.

Turning to CRISP and ISIS, there's the ICANN announcement of September
18th, 2003 on the subject, so even if it were an "advance" (and we don't
call each other's protocols "advanced" or "retarded" in the IETF,
although "brain dead" is used with some relish), its been around long
enough to have been discussed at least once previously. Mercifully, at
some Verisign product event and not this study group.

Cheers,
Eric

Patrick Jones wrote:
> In reviewing the WHOIS Study priority tally, there is an area that
> this group is overlooking: IDN implications of the current WHOIS. This
> is not a new issue. Recently, SSAC called attention to this in SSAC 27
> (http://www.icann.org/committees/security/sac027.pdf),
> <http://www.icann.org/committees/security/sac027.pdf%29,><http://www.icann.org/committees/security/sac027.pdf%29,>
>  but IETF and
> others have been working on it going back to at least 2004, if not
> earlier. This group might want to discuss protocol advances such as
> CRISP and IRIS and how these advances provide a way for
> internationalization of registration data.
>
> Category #7 (WHOIS Accuracy) in its current form does not capture the
> issue. Internationalization of registration data might be its own
> study category.
>
> Patrick
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