[npoc-voice] Re: [NCSG-Discuss] NCUC Nomination for Poncelet

[Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>]

No argument from me that academics are well represented in NCUC. The
question is how well are NGOs/NFPs represented?

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>  No more constituencies, yes. ****
>
> And end to SGs? No. ****
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>
> The SGs should be very broad, stable, neutral and balanced divisions of
> the groups and individuals involved, such as commercial v noncommercial or
> supply industry vs. users. ****
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> Then, within those broad groupings, one can have many short-term interest
> groups or coalitions or alliances form to push a particular position.
> Linking positions to structural groupings is a big mistake, which leads to
> divisiveness and fragmentation and power games.****
>
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> The example of an "academic" constituency, e.g., is not useful because
> academics are already well-represented in NCUC. If some people from
> academia care about a particular position, they can organize around it. If
> two groups of academics disagree on what is the best policy, fine, let them
> disagree. We must not pretend that all academics, or all academic
> organizations, want the same thing, yet this what the whole idea of
> constituencies lends itself to. ****
>
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> Thanks Milton. ****
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>
> So what are you thinking: would you go as far as no more Constituencies?
> no more Stakeholders' Groups? a completely different model based on gTLDs
> communities? What are the practical alternatives to the current model of
> multiple Constituencies in the same SG? I can think of a few myself, but
> nothing short term and until the GNSO management review is completed,
> structures are better left alone, no? ****
>
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> Also, I noted the recent and spontaneous early thinking in Toronto during
> our NCSG meetings (notably by David Cake) about the "real" differences
> between NCUC and NPOC (We have all faced that question - Marie-laure and I
> got it from NPOC's session with the Fellows for instance), maybe we should
> work on that, so that we have a clear message out before the
> inter-sessional and Beijing meetings? Also, how about my "old" idea of an
> Academia Constituency somewhere in the future...? I sensed it was not very
> popular but many other MS organizations use a taxonomy that give a specific
> place to Universities/Academics.****
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