[npoc-voice] Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Constituencies was Re: [] . Nomination for …

[Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>]

Just thinking out loud...

...I can imagine an NCSG made up of 5 constituencies (Avri, can you think
of at least 2 more? ;-)

- Universities/Academics (the current NCUC leadership could grow that
without much pain)
- Individual internet users (a great start also with NCUC)
- NGOs/NFPs (NPOC would continue its current pace of membership growth once
the Toronto NCSG-EC decisions on membership issues are implemented)
- Consumers (big concerns there!)
- Telecentres and other public internet access points (with private cyber
cafes and WIFI/WIMAX going to the BC)


Alain

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I have to take issue with the charge that the consumer constituency did
> not get off the ground because of resistance within NCSG.   We have made
> lots of room and opportunity for engagement by those proponents had they
> picked up the banner and done the work of creating a constituency.
>
> ICANN staff wrote provisions into the NCSG charter about what is required
> of a candidate constituency, and they are not bad criteria.
>
> So please don't try to re-open dead battles against NCSG with untrue
> claims about resistance to the consumer constituency from within NCSG.
>  That just isn't fair.  And it is hurtful and disruptive - not something we
> expect to hear from someone who wants to be a liaison to NCSG.
>
> Best,
> Robin
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>
> On 24 October 2012 13:00, Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> There used to be a notion that several would spin out of NCUC as it had
>> been the only and omnibus constituency for all Non Commercial groups but no
>> longer needed to maintain that function. NCUC serves NGOs, advocacy,
>> academia et al, and has participating members of every type of
>> NonCommercial.
>
>
> I think that was the PoV of the people who were trying to create the
> (since abandoned) Consumer Group Constituency a few years ago. I was close
> to (but not a part of) that effort, and found a resistance that, at the
> time, took me by surprise. So long as diversity of power within the NCSG is
> seen as a zero-sum game (ie, anything new must come at the expense of
> influence of the NCUC) such resistance will exist. The wearing down of the
> CGC attempt into oblivion (my PoV) has not been good sign to anyone else on
> the outside seeking the diversity that Avri advocates (and with which I
> personally agree).
>
> But any significant moves right now may be temporary anyway, given that
> the upcoming GNSO review can't be put off forever. IMO the bicameral
> structure we have now -- with policy being made inside what is essentially
> a compact between domain sellers and domain buyers, to the general
> exclusion of those outside -- is ripe for disruption. And while that
> specific view is my personal opinion, change along these lines is clearly
> indicated as well in the ALAC R3 white paper. I myself eagerly await the
> GNSO review and anticipate that ICANN's advisory bodies will have much to
> contribute.
>
> As a co-chair of the Future Challenges Working Group, I can state that
> advancing the positive evolution of ICANN's MSM -- including within the
> GNSO -- is most certainly within our scope.
>
> - Evan
>
>
>
>
>
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>


-- 
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
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Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
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