Re: [npoc-voice] Chinese Non Profits and NPOC

[Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with Klaus and Andrei,

I would add that NCSG/NPOC/NCUC can and should lead in defining
NFPs/NGOs/NPOs and civil society in general in a way that moves ICANN
towards a global/international/glocal mindset and multi-cultural
organizational sub-culture, in other ways, towards a globally inclusive
organization.

Also interesting to note that when the ICANN CEO talks about the challenges
of the internationalization of ICANN (one of four overarching priorities of
his early mandate), he talks about the starting point: when he says ICANN
is basically a Californian organization, he is talking about the mindset
and the organizational sub-culture. Nothing surprising given the origins
and young age of the organization and of course nothing wrong and in fact
much greatness with California of course - great state, great innovation
and great people, right Robin?, but it is a long way to go from there to
where ICANN needs to go.

Let's continue working on it!

Alain

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Andrei Barburas <abarburas@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I completely agree with you Klaus, but I believe that we need a
> person/persons that is extremely familiar with how different countries in
> the world, define and classify NPOs and NGOs.
>
> Furthermore, I am pretty sure that China is not the only country that has
> this classification of NPOs.
>
> Maybe it would be a good idea to put this on the agenda for Beijing...
>
> Cheers,
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> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:11 AM, klaus.stoll 
> <klaus.stoll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>>   Dear Friends
>>
>> Please read this excerpt from an recent article as is raises an important
>> aspect for our work which I address at the end of this email
>> Civil Society, Chinese Style:The Rise of the Nonprofit Sector in Post-Mao
>> China<http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/policysocial-context/21246-civil-society-chinese-stylethe-rise-of-the-nonprofit-sector-in-post-mao-chinaby.html>
>>
>> Written by Chao Guo, PhD, Jun Xu, PhD, David Horton Smith, PhD, and
>> Zhibin Zhang, PhD<http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/author.html?id=13051>
>>
>> Created on Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:11
>>
>>
>>
>> “Chinese nonprofits, especially the officially registered ones, do not
>> fit neatly into the definitions of nonprofit organizations commonly used
>> among Western scholars and practitioners. According to the current
>> classification system developed by MOCA, the more than 460,000 officially
>> registered NPOs fall into three broad categories:
>>
>>    1. “Social organizations,” which include economic groups (trade
>>    unions and chambers of commerce, etc.), social groups (social clubs,
>>    research organizations, hobby groups, etc.), religious groups, and
>>    membership-based public-benefit organizations;
>>    2. “Private non-enterprise organizations,” which include nonprofit
>>    schools, hospitals, and social service organizations, among others; and
>>    3. “Foundations,” which include public fundraising foundations (such
>>    as Soong Chingling Foundation, China Foundation for Poverty Alleviation,
>>    etc.) and non-public fundraising foundations, often referred to as private
>>    foundations.
>>
>> While the majority of NPOs do serve a public- or mutual-benefit purpose,
>> these registered nonprofits vary in the extent to which they are autonomous
>> and voluntary. In fact, many nonprofit organizations currently registered
>> with MOCA are actually “government-organized nongovernmental organizations”
>> (GONGOs). Nearly all of the national associations are GONGOs, as are many
>> NPO service agencies. There are also many organizations *not* included
>> in the 460,000 registered NPOs noted above that operate on nonprofit
>> principles but are registered as for-profit businesses, as in the case of
>> some private schools and social welfare NPOs. NPO founders have frequently
>> taken this path because the formal MOCA registration process is difficult
>> to get through in a timely manner, if at all. Becoming a registered
>> business is much faster and simpler, and allows NPO leaders to get on
>> quickly with their desired service delivery to people in need in a legal
>> manner. There are no formal statistics on how many registered businesses
>> are NPOs “in disguise,” but estimates suggest there are probably some
>> hundreds of thousands in all of China.”
>>
>> I have just some questions in the light of this article to the NCSG
>> leadership: *“Given the current definitions and evaluation criteria for
>> NCSG membership, how the hell will be able to greet and integrate the
>> Chinese NPO “hoards” that without doubt will soon knock on NCSG’s and it’s
>> constituencies doors and quite rightfully demand entry?”* Isn’t it time
>> that we adopt criteria and evaluation patterns that reflect the whole Globe
>> and not just our own realities? When will be be brave enough to allow entry
>> to those who might be a threat to our own carefully guarded bases of
>> power?. When will be strong enough to permit opinions that might not be
>> ours? When are we ready for real representation and not just the one that
>> suits us? When will we stop hiding our own interests behind a sacred multi
>> stakeholder model that has been distorted to a near meaningless because we
>> allow only those stakeholders that are guaranteed not to rock our boat?
>>
>> Yours
>>
>> Klaus
>>
>
>


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