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Re: [npoc] Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations
- To: "Alain Berranger" <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>, <npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx>, <npoc@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [npoc] Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations
- From: "klaus.stoll" <klaus.stoll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:36:36 +0200
Dear Friends
As an incurable addict to all things ICANN and social sector involvement in the
multi stakeholder process, in order to get my next fix, I nominate myself.
Yours
Klaus
From: Alain Berranger
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:07 PM
To: npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx ; npoc@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: klaus.stoll ; Caroline Figuères ; Jan Morton ; Carson, Michael ;
jecochard@xxxxxxx ; Branzelle, Judy
Subject: [npoc] Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations
Dear NPOC Colleagues,
So great to see: 1) so much participation!; 2) and unanimous support for this
idea.
It is clear to me that protection for all non-profits is likely to be an NPOC
concensus. However, we need to flush out our exact stance on the issue and an
ad-hoc Working Group approach as suggested by Klaus seems appropriate. Let me
know anyone, if you disagree.
To follow-up on Klaus' suggestion then, I suggest we call for quick
self-nominations of two large and two smaller NFP/NGOs not on the EC + anybody
from the EC that wishes to join - please give your 2 to 3 words motivation for
volunteering. If we have more volunteers than needed, Lori and I will designate
the 4 non-EC members. This requires fast track so we can announce our position
in Toronto when I make my usual NPOC activity summary to the GNSO Council live.
If you agree, then let's proceed immediately with nominations.
Cheers, Alain
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Branzelle, Judy <Judy.Branzelle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I fully support protection for all non-profits.
Judy Branzelle
General Counsel
Goodwill Industries International Inc.
15810 Indianola Drive
Rockville, MD 20855
240-333-5205
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of klaus.stoll
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 3:20 PM
To: Caroline Figuères; Jan Morton
Cc: Carson, Michael; jecochard@xxxxxxx; alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx;
npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations
Dear Friends
Greetings. It looks very much to me that protection for all non profits
should become one of the policies of NPOC. I would like to hear from anybody
who would have strong objections to this and also those who support. I think
that as a next step the Chair of the NPOC Policy Committee should create a
working group on this and come up with a draft proposal text that we can feed
into the ICANN and other ecosystem as soon as possible.
Yours
Klaus
-----Original Message-----
From: Caroline Figuères
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 5:47 PM
To: Jan Morton
Cc: Carson, Michael ; klaus.stoll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; jecochard@xxxxxxx ;
alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx ; npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx ;
ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations
Dear all
Fully agree that we should seek protection for all non profits. I am still
not in favor of exceptions. Best Caroline
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
Op 4 okt. 2012 om 17:29 heeft Jan Morton <JMorton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> het
volgende geschreven:
>
> I also agree that it is important to seek protection for all nonprofits.
> Thanks for all you are doing in this arena.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jan Morton
> Young Life
> (719) 381-1769
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Carson, Michael
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:36 AM
> To: klaus.stoll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; jecochard@xxxxxxx;
> alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx; ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
> Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team -
> Recommendations
>
>
> Klaus and Jean-Louis,
>
> Thank you both for your comments. I wholeheartedly concur with what
> has been said.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael
> YMCA of the USA
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
> Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team -
> Recommendations
> From: "klaus.stoll" <klaus.stoll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Jean-Louis Ecochard <jecochard@xxxxxxx>,Alain Berranger
> <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>
> CC: "npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx"
> <npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx>,"ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx"
> <ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> Dear Jean-Louis
>
> I want to Thank You for raising what might be the most important
> aspect in this debate: protection and a plain playing field for all
> non-profits. I confess, I think we, including me, got side tracked in
> the debate by concentrating on the individual and not on the
> collective. I think it would be great if we could now all, and I
> include here the IOC and the IRC, move away from seeking protection
> for individual organizations or not, but close ranks and seek protection
and justice for all!
>
> Thanks again for your extremely valuable contribution
>
> Yours
>
> Klaus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean-Louis Ecochard
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:32 AM
> To: Alain Berranger
> Cc: npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx ; ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
> Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team -
> Recommendations
>
>
> Cher Alain,
>
> I agree and I am in favor of the proposed PDP route.
>
> But also want to make it clear that we have to represent the needs of
> all non-profits, big and small, members and non-members and that while
> IRC and IOC had the resources to pay attention to the early ICANN
> texts and hence insert their requests for protection by the deadlines,
> it was not the case of other non-profits who either did not know what
> was happening (and most still don't ) or did not have the resources to
request protection.
>
> With understanding that the exception process is closed and respecting
> opinions asking no more exception be made, it is nonetheless unfair
> and unjust that so many non-profits brands will risk being co-opted at
> the gTLD level and thus have to potentially spend donor money to
> making the gTLD right instead of doing good. As NGOs are a substantial
> part of the public good, it is in the utmost interest of the public
> good to open this exception process broader than IRC and IOC's brands
> to the interest of all NGOs and make it a standard for the protection
> of non-profit brands instead of an exception limited to IRC and IOC.
>
> Merci,
> Jean-Louis Ecochard
>
>
>
> From: Alain Berranger
> <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>>
> Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 3:07 PM
> To: "npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx>"
> <npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx>>,
>
"ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx>"
> <ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ioc-rcrc-recommendations@ic
> ann.org>>
> Subject: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
> Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team -
> Recommendations
>
> Dear NPOC Colleagues,
>
> I do not recall an NPOC consultation on this. Hence, it is not
> possible to refer to an NCSG opposition, but I presume only to an NCUC
> opposition (although I have not followed NCUC on this issue). That
> said, we at NPOC need to express ourselves on this issue. I for one
> favor the PDP route as an appropriate compromise. What say you?
>
> Alain
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Glen@xxxxxxxxx>>
> Date: Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:17 PM
> Subject: [liaison6c] Protection of International Olympic Committee
> (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations
> To: liaison6c
> <liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>
>
> https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ioc-rcrc-recommendations-
> 28sep12-en.htm Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) /
> Red Cross Names
> (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations Comment/Reply Periods (*)
>
> Important Information Links
>
> Comment Open:
>
> 28 September 2012
>
> Comment Close:
>
> 19 October 2012
>
> Close Time (UTC):
>
> 23:59 UTC
>
> Public Comment
> Announcement<https://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-
> 28sep12-en.htm>
>
> Reply Open:
>
> 20 October 2012
>
> To Submit Your Comments
> (Forum)<mailto:ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Reply Close:
>
> 9 November 2012
>
> View Comments
> Submitted<http://forum.icann.org/lists/ioc-rcrc-recommendations/>
>
> Close Time (UTC):
>
> 23:59 UTC
>
> Report of Public Comments
>
> Brief Overview
>
> Originating Organization:
>
> GNSO
>
> Categories/Tags:
>
>
> * Top-Level Domains
> * Second-Level Domains
> * Policy Process
> * Intellectual Property
>
> Purpose (Brief):
>
> The IOC/RCRC Drafting Team (DT) requests community comment on the
> latest recommendations created for second level protections of names
> relating to the International Olympic Committee and the Red Cross/Red
Crescent.
>
> Current Status:
>
> Open for Public Comment
>
> Next Steps:
>
> The Drafting Team's recommendations will be updated to reflect
> community feedback submitted through this forum and via final
> agreement of the Drafting Team members. Final recommendations will
> then be presented to the GNSO Council for its consideration.
>
> Staff Contact:
>
> Brian Peck, Margie Milam
>
> Email:
>
> Policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx?subject=More%20in
> formation%20on%20the%20Protection%20of%20International%20Olympic%20Com
> mittee%20%28IOC%29%20/%20Red%20Cross%20Names%20%28RCRC%29%20Drafting%2
> 0Team%20%E2%80%93%20Recommendations%20public%20comment%20period>
>
> Detailed Information
>
> Section I: Description, Explanation, and Purpose
>
>
> As a result of IOC/RCRC being granted top level protections for the
> first round of the new gTLD program, the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team was
> further tasked to consider whether the same protections should be
> afforded at the second level prior to the first delegation of a new
> gTLD. Since the beginning of 2012, the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team (DT) has
> deliberated about possible second level protections and how to respond
> to the GAC's request for protections.
> The DT now submits the recommendations formulated by the DT and makes
> them available for public comment before final submission to the GNSO
Council.
>
> Note from the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team Chair:
> These recommendations are being posted at the request of the Drafting
> Team.
> Although some members of the Drafting Team believe that a PDP is not
> necessary at this time to grant second level protections for the
> IOC/RCRC, a consensus of the DT does in fact agree that a PDP
> represents an appropriate compromise on this issue. With respect to
> the Recommendations
> #2 and #3 (temporary protection at second level), there is strong
> support amongst the Drafting Team for those recommendations with
> opposition from the Non-commercial Stakeholder Group and Thomas
> Rickert. A copy of statements from certain constituencies, stakeholder
> groups, and/or individuals is attached as appendices to the recommendations.
>
> Section II: Background
>
>
> The ICANN Board had requested policy advice from the GNSO Council and
> the GAC on whether special protections should be afforded to the RCRC,
> IOC and/or IGOs. Specifically, in its Singapore resolution, the Board
> authorized the President and CEO to implement the New gTLD Program
> "which includes the following elements: "the 30 May 2011 version of
> the Applicant Guidebook, subject to the revisions agreed to with the
> GAC on 19 June 2011, including:
> ...(b) incorporation of text concerning protection for specific
> requested Red Cross and IOC names for the top level only during the
> initial application round, until the GNSO and GAC develop policy
> advice based on the global public interest....."
>
> During September 2011, the GAC also sent advice to the GNSO with a
> proposal for granting second level protections based upon the
> protections afforded to IOC/RCRC at the first level. In the same
> month, section
> 2.2.1.2.3 was added to the latest version of the new gTLD Applicant
> Guidebook dated 19 September 2011.
>
> As a result of the GAC proposal submitted to the GNSO, the GNSO
> Council created a call for volunteers to form a drafting team about
> creating a response to the GAC. The IOC/RCRC Drafting Team was formed
> has since created a set of recommendations for protecting the IOC/RCRC
> names at the second level and includes an outline for a response to
> the GAC from the GNSO. The Drafting Team now wishes to solicit
> feedback from the community prior to submission of the recommendations to
the GNSO Council.
>
> See the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team page for more detail at:
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/red-cross-ioc.htm
>
> Section III: Document and Resource Links
>
> IOC/RCRC Drafting Team Recommendations
> Report<http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/ioc-rcrc-recommendations-28sep1
> 2-en.pdf>
> [PDF, 152 KB]
>
> Section IV: Additional Information
>
> None
>
>
>
>
> (*) Comments submitted after the posted Close Date/Time are not
> guaranteed to be considered in any final summary, analysis, reporting,
> or decision-making that takes place once this period lapses.
>
>
> Glen de Saint Géry
> GNSO Secretariat
> gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> http://gnso.icann.org
>
>
>
>
> --
> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
> http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-dire
> ctors/> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
> www.schulich.yorku.ca<http://www.schulich.yorku.ca<http://www.schulich
> .yorku.ca<http://www.schulich.yorku.ca>>
> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation,
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> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
> Skype: alain.berranger
>
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