[npoc] Re: Info Request and Update --GNSO NCPH January 2013 Inter-Sessional Planning - Traveler Info Requested

[Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for confirmation, Robin. Out of curiosity, which GNSO Councilor is
not coming to LA and is that Councilor not coming because of a missing
travel allocation? I also note that Bill, 3 days ago, mentioned that Milton
and Rafik were nor available.

Pleased to move on... Best, Alain

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thank you, Alain.  I think we can be flexible and accommodate you this
> time, however, NCSG will be without 1 GNSO Councilor in LA with that travel
> allocation going to you instead.   NCUC's LA travel allocations have all
> gone (rightfully) to NCUC's executive team and regional representatives,
> who were all elected by NCUC.  The distinction between the SG and
> constituencies is an important one to keep in mind however.  In any event,
> let's move on now that this is settled.
>
> Thanks again,
> Robin
>
>
>
> On Dec 9, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>
> Dear Robin,
>
> Thank you. I agree with your offer and accept it. I note that all elected
> NCSG Councilors can still be there under that compromise.
>
> Best, Alain
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>  Alain,
>>
>> Even though the seat is allocated to an NCSG-wide representative, as a
>> compromise I think you could utilize the travel support for one of the NCSG
>> allocations, as a member of the NCSG EC.  We can send you, me and MM (or
>> Avri) as 3 NCSG EC wide allocations.  The other 5 NCSG-wide allocations
>> will go to the NCSG elected GNSO Representatives.  So NCSG would send *you*
>> instead of one of the elected NCSG GNSO Councilors to LA.  I think that
>> compromise is the best we can offer that would give you more allocations
>> than were originally awarded to NPOC.  And NPOC still has 6 travel
>> allocations, which would be enough to cover the number of people who
>> participate on NPOC's email list with any regularity.
>>
>> Please let me know if we can put this petty dispute behind us and get on
>> with real policy work.  Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>> Robin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>>
>> Dear Robin,
>>
>> Please, I'm not turning it into a NCUC vs NPOC issue - it has always been
>> an NCUC = NCSG issue ever since I joined ICANN. We will have plenty of
>> occasions in 2013 to discuss how to improve that situation. But let me
>> point out, purely as an example, that when I suggested in Toronto at the
>> NCSG meeting that we do an NCSG event before Beijing like NCUC did before
>> Toronto, it was quickly shot down and it was clearly stated that NCUC would
>> go alone. Many came to see  me after, including a few NCUC members, and
>> told me how surprised they were about the rapid refusal.
>>
>> Back to the immediate issue:
>>
>> I understand what you said about the NCSG function and have not learned
>> anything I did not know already. To take up your line of thinking though, I
>> would say that he primary NCSG Officers that perform NCSG duties (at least
>> some do) are the members of the NCCG-EC, so you as Chair and the 2
>> appointed reps from the 2 Cys.* I suggest it is most appropriate that
>> these 5 people get priority for the allocation of the NCSG-wide seats 
>> *proposed
>> by Rob: that means you, Milton, Rafik, I and the soon to be appointed
>> replacement for Lori Schulman (it will be most likely Cintra Sooknanan as
>> she is the only nominee as I write this and the nomination period closes
>> today COB) - the appointment will be confirmed right after the NPOC
>> teleconference next Tuesday and I will advise all those who need to know).
>>
>> I think this is as fair as one can make it - up to you now!
>>
>> Have a good week-end!
>>
>> Best, Alain
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>  Alain,
>>>
>>> Please stop turning this into a NCUC vs NPOC issue.
>>>
>>> The NCSG has a different function than the constituencies and has
>>> elected people to represent them in those functions, irrespective of what
>>> constituency they are from.  These are elected NCSG officers performing
>>> NCSG duties and responsibilities.   Constantly focusing on what
>>> constituency a person is a member of is irrelevant to their role as NCSG
>>> officer and prevents NCSG from carrying out its specific duties because we
>>> are tied up in these ridiculous petty battles.
>>>
>>> NCSG will sent 8 NCSG elected representatives to perform NCSG duties
>>> NPOC will sent 6 NPOC selections to perform NPOC duties
>>> NCUC will send 6 NCUC selections to perform NCUC duties
>>>
>>> Constituencies may not appropriate the functions nor responsibilities of
>>> NCSG.  Both the NCSG and the constituencies will have their representatives
>>> at the meeting, in the case of the NCSG, it will be people the entire NCSG
>>> membership has actually elected.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello from Salaberry-de-Valleyfield,
>>>
>>> 1) Nobody is saying the GNSO Councilors shouldn't be there, they should
>>> be there... That said, it is desirable in my vieww to attain parity of
>>> participants per SG *AND* parity of participants per Cy within SG. You
>>> obviously favor or are satisfied with SG parity ONLY, and why wouldn't you
>>> the business as usual scenario? But NPOC is now a reality of the NCSG and
>>> we value Cy parity within an SG.
>>>
>>> Can we please A2D on this for reason of practicality as I see no
>>> flexibility on either side of the issue ever since NPOC was created and do
>>> not expect movement on this? Do you? Bill, as future NCSG-EC Chair, you
>>> might as well get used to that reality right away... Frankly, what I do not
>>> appreciate is the thinking that would claim that "parity" of any kind will
>>> be attained if NCUC has 14 representatives and NPOC only 6! That's not
>>> parity, that's imbalance!
>>>
>>> 2) Secon point I want to make: the finality of a Cy or a SG for that
>>> matter is not to only produce policy for the GNSO, that's it that's all.
>>> Policy making from the base is most important of course, even critical.
>>> However, I think the mission of a Cy/SG also includes, or can include or
>>> should include: training, dissemination, advocacy and any form you think
>>> outreach can take... and if the NCSG Charter does not allow that, then
>>> let's change the Charter. We also have to promote inclusion, we have to
>>> contribute to eradicating the digital divide, we have to fight for ICT4Ds
>>> and poverty reduction, we have to fight for an inclusive and resilient
>>> internet governance... that too is worth flying around the world to
>>> discuss. ICANN is at a cross-roads - you in Dubai now know more than the
>>> rest of us watching at a distance... how ICANN global outreach efforts by
>>> the NCHP contribute to ICANN's continued relevance is as worthy of
>>> discussion as policy making.
>>>
>>> Alain
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:42 AM, William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello from Dubai
>>>>
>>>> I proposed adding the Councilors in order to equalize the number of
>>>> participants per SG on 9 October.  Multiple messages have been exchanged on
>>>> the thread since then, and nobody questioned the concept of having our SG
>>>> wide elected representatives there until now.  So why days after names were
>>>> to be submitted (and the Councilors have confirmed their availability) are
>>>> we now hearing that there's a problem with them participating? The time to
>>>> do this, for whatever reason, would have been earlier.
>>>>
>>>> On the substantive merits: If, as the strawman agenda suggests, this is
>>>> intended to be a meeting on NCPH engagement in GNSO processes and NCPH
>>>> perspectives on GNSO issues, it would make sense to have our SG represented
>>>> by the people who represent us in GNSO Council processes and are most
>>>> closely engaged with the issues.  That would be a meeting worth flying
>>>> across the planet for.  If instead the meeting and its planning are going
>>>> to be all about competitive demands for imaginary positional goods, I
>>>> cannot see the point of the exercise.  We'll already have enough of that
>>>> with the CSG, why we'd want to replicate it internally at the front end is
>>>> beyond me.
>>>>
>>>> We really need to set aside the asking for stuff bit and focus on
>>>> actual GNSO work.
>>>>
>>>> Back to the equally frustrating negotiations—at least here it's
>>>> governments playing games.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> PS: Milton and Rafik are unavailable anyway.
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Robin,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I understood the situation.
>>>>
>>>>  In practice, how many seats for NCSG's needs will end up going to NCUC
>>>> members and how many to NPOC members? It seems that the Cy parity is less
>>>> important to you than to me. In a way, that is not surprising so let's A2D
>>>> again on that one and move on.
>>>>
>>>> NPOC will soon designate a replacement on the NCSG-EC for Lori
>>>> Schulman, until our 2013 elections anyway - I will let the NCSG-EC know as
>>>> soon as possible - we have called for nominations and will communicate our
>>>> decision mid-december.
>>>>
>>>> As a NCSG-EC member, I suggest that 5 of the 8 SG wide seats go to the
>>>> NCSG-EC, ie. you, Milton, Rafik, myself and the new appointee. That would
>>>> still end up 8 NPOC participants and 12+1 NCUC participants with 5 of these
>>>> representing the NCSG-EC.
>>>>
>>>> I'm less concerned about the NCSG numbers as there will be no shortage
>>>> in LA, but am concerned about having enough new NPOC members to be able to
>>>> start a little Cy capacity building.
>>>>
>>>> Does that spirit and letter work for you and other NCSG-EC members?
>>>>
>>>> Best, Alain
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Alain,
>>>>>
>>>>> NCSG on the one hand as the SG, and NPOC and NCUC on the other hand as
>>>>> constituencies play different roles, perform different functions and have
>>>>> different responsibilities according the NCSG Charter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither NCUC nor NPOC may over-take the positions at this mtg reserved
>>>>> for the NCSG representatives, who were elected by the entire NCSG
>>>>> membership (including NPOC members) to perform NCSG functions and
>>>>> responsibilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> The constituencies each are allocated 6 seats to ensure their needs
>>>>> are met, and the NCSG is allocated 8 seats to ensure that NCSG's needs are
>>>>> met.  Each constituency will have to make due with what has been allocated
>>>>> to it, as will NCSG.  I hope that clears it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Robin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Robin, Bill:
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO, we do not need the GNSO councillors per se; they can simply show
>>>>> up as NCUC members... given the parity in numbers between Cys stated by
>>>>> Rob, I find it more equitable if NPOC gets 10 seats like NCUC... if not, 
>>>>> it
>>>>> will be NCUC with 14 members and only 6 for NPOC. We need parity between
>>>>> the 2 Cys. Also, if I can mobilize 10 NPOC members, we can have our EC
>>>>> members (the Toronto NPOC  delegation + Cintra)  plus representatives from
>>>>> Africa, LAC and Asia.  Indeed, we would like to use the meeting for
>>>>> capacity building of our Constituency... that's better for ICANN, as NCUC
>>>>>  is well established and has had 12 years to build capacity and
>>>>> leadership... NPOC has had a little more than one year...
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you say?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alain
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Alain,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NCSG-wide seats will go to NCSG-wide representatives (i.e. the NCSG
>>>>>> GNSO Councilors) not to individual constituency members.  NPOC will have 
>>>>>> 6
>>>>>> to allocate and should use those for NPOC representatives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Robin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  For now, on a preliminary basis to be confirmed, here are NPOC's 4
>>>>>> intended attendees under NCSG-wide allocation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll
>>>>>> 2. Cintra Sooknanan
>>>>>> 3. Marie-laure Lemineur
>>>>>> 4. the undersigned
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will confirm soonest possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best, Alain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Robert Hoggarth <robert.hoggarth@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:47 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Info Request and Update --GNSO NCPH January 2013
>>>>>> Inter-Sessional Planning - Traveler Info Requested
>>>>>> To: Robert Hoggarth <robert.hoggarth@xxxxxxxxx>, Marilyn Cade <
>>>>>> marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Rafik
>>>>>> Dammak <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>, "michaeladams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <
>>>>>> michaeladams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "mtrachtenberg@xxxxxxxxxxx" <
>>>>>> mtrachtenberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Alain Berranger <
>>>>>> alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>, Klaus Stoll <
>>>>>> klaus.stoll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Tony Holmes <
>>>>>> tonyarholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxx>,
>>>>>> David Cake <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Cc: David Olive <david.olive@xxxxxxxxx>, Joseph de Jesus <
>>>>>> joseph.dejesus@xxxxxxxxx>, Karen Lettner <karen.lettner@xxxxxxxxx>,
>>>>>> Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>, Margie Milam <
>>>>>> Margie.Milam@xxxxxxxxx>, "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Marilyn, Robin, Bill, Tony, Alain, Marc, David, Klaus, Michael
>>>>>> and Rafik;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to you all for the latest round of contributions to planning
>>>>>> for the January meeting.  This message contains confirming information 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> to-do’s regarding the meeting logistics and a modified draft program for
>>>>>> the meeting.  You have all provided very helpful and reasonable input
>>>>>> allowing us to fashion logistics that should generally meet all your
>>>>>> expectations for the meeting.  There are still areas of the program that
>>>>>> need additional input and that can be adjusted further, but we are now at
>>>>>> the point where you can begin providing the names of your participants so
>>>>>> that we can begin making travel arrangements for everyone. ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you review the material below and in the attached document, please
>>>>>> alert me as soon as possible if you think I have misinterpreted any input
>>>>>> and if the results are not to your satisfaction.  While we have had
>>>>>> to make some compromises, I think we are “in the ballpark” in addressing
>>>>>> most of the various views and requests. ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Please try to get all or most of your planned meeting participant
>>>>>> names and email addresses in to me by the end of this week – 1 December.
>>>>>> *  We can continue the dialogue regarding the draft agenda for
>>>>>> another couple of weeks, but the attendee travel arrangements need to 
>>>>>> start
>>>>>> being made as soon as possible to ensure that everyone has a flight and a
>>>>>> hotel room close by the ICANN office.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Confirmed Logistics:*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Dates and Location:* January 29 and 30, 2013 at ICANN HQ in Los
>>>>>> Angeles, California****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Meeting Hotel:*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doubletree by Hilton Hotel Los Angeles - Westside
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6161 West Centinela Avenue****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Culver City, CA, 90230-6306****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phone: 1-310-649-1776  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Attendance:* Based on the concept of a strategic meeting of
>>>>>> community leaders, the allocated meeting budget and available space in 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ICANN Los Angeles office,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 41 community participants – 20 from each Stakeholder Group plus the
>>>>>> Nominating Committee Appointee assigned to the GNSO’s Non Contract Party
>>>>>> House – will be able to attend the meeting in-person.  Remote
>>>>>> participation capabilities will beprovided to allow other interested
>>>>>> community members designated by their SG or Constituency to attend.  The
>>>>>> meeting events will be recorded and transcribed by ICANN.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Based on input received, the fairest allocation of slots seemed to be
>>>>>> the following:****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the CSG, 6 attendees each for the BC, IPC and ISPCPC, plus two
>>>>>> CSG-wide seats.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the NCSG, 6 attendees each for the NCUC and the NPOC, plus 8
>>>>>> NCSG-wide seats.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These allocations are based on the input that there should be
>>>>>> numerical parity between SGs and Constituencies and to give flexibility
>>>>>> within the SG’s as well to the maximum extent possible. As you will see
>>>>>> from the draft agenda, there is time in the program for each SG to 
>>>>>> arrange
>>>>>> for specific community discussions on matters that are of particular
>>>>>> interest to them.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each Constituency and Stakeholder Group has flexibility in indicating
>>>>>> who will attend on their behalf.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There did not seem to be a consensus on attendance by the GNSO
>>>>>> Council leadership or representatives from the Registry or Registrar
>>>>>> Stakeholder Groups.  Therefore, no attendance from those parties is
>>>>>> anticipated in the participant count or in the agenda topics now being
>>>>>> proposed.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Travel will be arranged through the ICANN Travel Team. The Travel
>>>>>> Team will reach out directly to all designated attendees with
>>>>>> travelspecifics and instructions on how to make reservations and
>>>>>> arrangements.  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Please try to get all or most of your attendee names and their
>>>>>> email addresses in to me by the end of this week – 1 December 2013.*
>>>>>> *A simple email from you to me with the list of names, community
>>>>>> title/position (if any) and contact email address will suffice.*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Program:*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since there seems to be an understandable and reasonable difference
>>>>>> of views regarding the scope of topics to be discussed at the meeting, I
>>>>>> have modified the proposed program/agenda structure to provide for more
>>>>>> balance between joint (general session) meeting time and individual
>>>>>> community meeting times. The goal is to let you take advantage of the two
>>>>>> days to both conduct individual community discussions, and to also engage
>>>>>> in broader discussions about critical engagement and outreach topics 
>>>>>> common
>>>>>> to all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Please review the modified agenda at your earliest convenience.*  I
>>>>>> would welcome reactions to this modified approach and I am sure further
>>>>>> tweaks and adjustments to time frames and topics would improve the 
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> even more. I am happy to clarify any areas of the proposed program that 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not yet clear or fully fleshed out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that I have incorporated the idea of a stage-setting panel or
>>>>>> speaker on Day 2 to provide us with a common knowledge base about the
>>>>>> future of the ICANN ecosystem. I welcome reactions to that idea, and, if
>>>>>> you think the idea has any merit, suggestions for possible
>>>>>> speakers/panelists (most likely remote participant(s)).****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will note that the program still includes an evening reception on
>>>>>> the evening of Tuesday January 29 at the DoubleTree Hotel.  We anticipate
>>>>>> that you may wish to invite some local LA contacts or other potential
>>>>>> outreach connections.  We are tentatively setting the arrangements for 80
>>>>>> attendees at the reception – including meeting participants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Meeting Report/Assessment:*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because this meeting is designated as a “pilot” project in the FY13
>>>>>> ICANN Budget document, Staff will be preparing an assessment report after
>>>>>> the meeting concludes to assess its success.  Please expect a
>>>>>> contact from me in early February asking for your views about the meeting
>>>>>> planning effort and how the meeting went for you and your community 
>>>>>> members.
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Interest in a Programming Call?*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given travel schedules and time zone differences, I think the
>>>>>> email-input approach has worked fairly well.  Please let me know if
>>>>>> any of you think we would benefit from a final teleconference to iron out
>>>>>> any differences with respect to the agenda. If so, I would propose to
>>>>>> schedule the call some time later next week (December 6 or 7).****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, again, for your willingness to contribute to this effort.  I
>>>>>> appreciate all your advice and input.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
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>>>>>> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
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>> --
>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, 
>> http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
>> www.schulich.yorku.ca
>> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
>> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
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>
>
> --
> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, 
> http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
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Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org
Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
Skype: alain.berranger


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