Re: [soac-mapo] GAC Invititation

[William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Jul 23, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Avri Doria wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> We should start a third list on the same topic?

If they can be enticed here then obviously no, but if there are sensibility 
issues that keep them from coming, why not.  

We'll see what happens after Chuck talks to Heather and CLO..

BD
> 
> On the Cross Community thing, all of the real cross community list, i.e that 
> aren't in some group's turf as it were, have been created in non ICANN space. 
> 
> The name of this list at least indicates lack of turf.
> 
> i am wondering did the SOAC chairs group discuss this effort at all?  Seems 
> like that is the place to take the issue and figure out a way to have 
> something truly cross community develop.
> 
> 
> a.
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 Jul 2010, at 02:21, William Drake wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>> 
>>> Then comes this list, the idea of which was certainly never bounced off 
>>> ALAC before creation (don't know if anyone asked the GAC). Before this list 
>>> even saw its first posting there were 24 members from GNSO alone; hardly a 
>>> level playing field for a couple of GAC or ALAC members to wander into. 
>>> Rather than re-invent something from scratch and hope *they'll* show up, 
>>> why not offer to send some people into the ALAC/GAC conversation (really, a 
>>> yet-informal working group) that already exists?
>> 
>> As was mentioned at the outset, staff tossed up this list following a 
>> Council discussion in Brussels in which it was suggested that GNSO have some 
>> dialogue and recalibrate in light of the GAC position and in anticipation of 
>> the cross-community platform some GAC members said GAC would favor.  Since 
>> it wasn't the intention that this list would be that platform and we didn't 
>> establish a charter etc before people dove deep into debate, it's not 
>> surprising nobody thought to bounce it off ALAC first or invite GAC.  In the 
>> meanwhile, nothing has been done to advance the cross-community concept.  
>> Rather than asking GNSO people to join an ALAC/GAC conversation others 
>> didn't know about, or asking ALAC and GAC people to join a GNSO list others 
>> didn't know about and then dig through the archive to get "caught up" (which 
>> one imagines some government types used to different models of interaction 
>> would find procedurally odd), why not simply take the initiative to launch a 
>> new, "neutral" !
> cross-community space open to all?  Unburden this of any process 
> misperceptions, remove it from any one SO/AC's 'turf' and start fresh?  
> Presumably Chuck, CLO, and Heather could figure out a mechanism...
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
> 
> 

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