[soac-newgtldapsup-wg] Some comments/questions for our call

[Andrew Mack <amack@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

All,
 
Greetings.  Despite our lack of chatter on the list of late, I know that 
everyone remains interested in coming forward with as complete a final product 
as we can, and with that in mind I have gone back over my notes from the last 
couple of months and have tried to address some unresolved questions we will 
want to touch on in our final version.  This is designed to help clarify/add 
detail to what we have so far and could be added to existing documentation.  It 
is pretty easy to get wrapped around the axle here, as there's a lot of 
complexity but I hope some of this is useful.  

 
Cheers, Andrew
 
Working Team 1
 
Overall, the piece for WT1 appears fairly complete with a couple of edits for 
clarity perhaps.  There are a few outstanding questions that come to my mind:
 
1.       Q: How much can cost finally be reduced in total?  A: This I assume 
will depend on which parts of the cost proposal are accepted.
 
2.       Q: Would applicants be offered different levels of cost reduction 
depending on need/appropriateness? A: This will depend on a number of factors, 
starting with the amount of potential resource is available.  Still, in the 
first round, it might be wiser to keep this even for all applicants to simplify 
the process (i.e. simply dividing up the total amount of aid available evenly). 
 
In future rounds and based on our resource endowment the “New Applicant Support 
Panel” (NASP, see below) could determine if groups required different levels of 
support, and how much was appropriate for each.
 
3.       Q: In the case of “bundled pricing”, how much of a discount would be 
offered to encourage build-out of underserved scripts and for what exactly?  A: 
This is still an open question that would include elements of both WT1 and WT2. 
 
It would seem that we could offer – as with any product – packages to encourage 
bundling as the burden on ICANN evaluators should be significantly reduced.  An 
idea: divide the IDN world into categories with some (Arabic, Chinese, etc.) 
considered Tier One, i.e. likely to be built out, and other, smaller scripts 
(Amharic, Tamil, etc.) considered Tier Two.  A “bundle” would include some of 
these Tier Two scripts.  In this case there is no “right answer”, so WT1, what 
do you propose?
 
 
Working Team 2
 
WT2 had a lot of the broader questions, and as such we have some good answers 
but also a number of mechanical/process issues still to be resolved.  I have 
tried to summarize the questions outstanding below but there are no doubt many 
more.  I think there’s general consensus subject to answering our sub questions 
below:
 
1.       Q: Who should receive support?  A: In this first round we have agreed 
that we should try to work with groups that fulfill the basic criteria of being 
applicants that: 

a.       Need support due to financial limitations
b.      Aren’t brands/groups that should be self-supporting companies
c.       Aren’t purely Government/parastatal applicants (though applicants with 
some Government support might be eligible)
We also recommended focusing on ethnic/linguistic communities as a starting 
point, and expressed the desire to give some preference to 
geographically/historically underserved regions like Africa (though support in 
this first round would not be limited only to ethnic/linguistic groups or any 
particular region.)  The WG also agreed that support should be open to 
applicants of any legal form – i.e. NGO, for profit, some hybrid.  The WG also 
rejected a size limitation on communities/groups that apply, subject to the 
focus on sustainability. Two underlying criteria – need and the applicant’s 
ability to help get underrepresented voices on the web – are essential.  

 
2.       Some sub questions:
a.       Q: What constitutes an ethnic/linguistic community?  A: We don’t have 
a 
firm definition as yet, but recommend starting with ICANN’s own definition and 
moving forward from that point.  With an eye toward sustainability, we should 
look for organizations that have some history/track record (i.e. weren’t formed 
just for the purpose of the application), some non-government financial 
resources and some standing within their community.  

b.      Q: What if there are two applicants asking to represent a particular 
community?  A: The NASP would decide based on the combination of factors, 
including technical, financial, standing and other issues. 

 
3.       Q: Who determines who gets support and how might they operate?  A: 
Based on our discussions there will need to be some sort of New Applicant 
Support Panel (NASP) to evaluate requests and oversee this process.  

a.       Composition of the panel and its funding are still TBD, as is the 
exact 
form of the panel.  Idea: The NASP should include ICANN Staff and potentially 
Board Members, but also outside experts to bring in additional perspectives and 
avoid any conflict of interest.  
b.      There was some support for a kind of grading/ranking process that would 
enable applicants to know ex ante if their applications were “on the right 
track” to be approved and provide guidance to the NASP in making decisions.  
Criteria outlined above and in earlier documentation could form part of the 
criteria.  

c.       Goals: NASP would meet periodically and would have responsibility for 
determining:
                                                   i.      Which applicants 
merit support
                                                 ii.      How much support each 
is to be offered, and what kind of support is offered
d.      Once support is being offered the NASP will serve a 
review/accountability function to determine

                                                   i.      Whether the support 
is being helpful
                                                 ii.      Whether applicants 
continue to merit support (in cases where the support is offered over a period 
of time, applicants receiving ongoing support will need to show that they are 
still viable/capable of pursuing their mission and still need support)
 
4.       Q: How will this be funded?  A: Still TBD, but in the short term 
funding will likely need to come from a variety of sources including:
a.       ICANN budget – especially as we finalize the procedures and practices 
of NASP
b.      Foundations and other external sources
c.       Contributions from members of the ICANN community – either in kind or 
in cash
d.      User contributions/fees?  
The question of funding can be approached two ways: how much funding is 
necessary (based on demand) and how much funding is available.  Once the 
policies are clarified, we may want to pilot this effort to help gauge both.
 
5.       Q: How will the different kinds of funding be administered?  A: The 
process envisions different stages based on my notes:  

a.       General support – for awareness raising, outreach (funded/administered 
by ICANN)
b.      Request for Application Support – to help applicants make their 
applications, reviewed by NASP and shared with the public (per our desire for 
transparency)
c.       Application support – the actual offering of support, monitored by 
NASP 
to see if support is being helpful, if applicants continue to be viable
d.    Evaluation -- essential if we want the program to be sustainable

e.      Ongoing support – to help applicants become/stay viable.  Will the 
process include this?  There has been discussion of it but this seems to be on 
the edge of our mandate.  

 
Andrew A. Mack 
Principal
AMGlobal Consulting

+1-202-256-1077  
amack@xxxxxxxxxxxx  
www.amglobal.com




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From: Gisella Gruber-White <Gisella.Gruber-White@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx" <SOAC-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 7:51:48 AM
Subject: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] REMINDER / Joint SO/AC WG on New gTLD Applicant 
Support  (JAS WG) call / 03 August 2010 @ 1300 UTC

REMINDER / Joint SO/AC WG on New gTLD Applicant Support  (JAS WG) call / 03 
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