[soac-newgtldapsup-wg] Today call

[<tijani.benjemaa@xxxxxxxx>]

Dear all,

 

I’m afraid I wouldn’t be able to participate in today call. I apologize.

 

As for the wiki document, I will comment on it soon. Sorry, I couldn’t do
sooner.

 

Best

 

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Tijani BEN JEMAA

Executive Director

Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations

Phone : + 216 70 825 231

Mobile : + 216 98 330 114

Fax     : + 216 70 825 231

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De : owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx] De la part de Richard Tindal
Envoyé : mardi 31 mai 2011 01:31
À : Cintra Sooknanan; soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Objet : Re: [spam] Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] The GAC weighs in on MR2

 

Cintra,

 

Could you be more specific about what you mean by auction fee estimate?

 

RT

 

 

On May 30, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Cintra Sooknanan wrote:





Good day everyone, 

 

Just tracking back a bit here to specific questions that Karla is to send to
staff for clarification. I agree with the points raised by both Evan and
Tijani. I wish to add that:

 

1. In addition to a breakdown of the fees detailed in Evans' email and
yearly Operation Cost amount; that we  get a similar breakdown Auction fees
estimate; and

 

2. That the rationale for payment of the $185K upfront be revisited. Perhaps
it is felt that there are fewer administrative hurdles in the collection of
these funds upfront, but the result of this is an extremely narrow and
restrictive process putting some applicants under severe financial
constraints. 

Instead we are strongly suggesting that the costs of each phase be unbundled
and broken down. 

The main benefit of this is allowing financially weaker applicants a chance
to apply and giving them the benefit of raising the rest of the money during
the course of the process. 

Also, it affords us the opportunity of seeing exactly what aspects of the
process require a greater financial injection than others. I am not exactly
suggesting that we attempt to find better costing mechanisms (though this
may be an outcome if the amounts seem inflated), but I am suggesting that
this will definitely give us an idea of where the costs lie and will open
the option of implementing a staggered payment scheme for Needy Applicants.

If the costs are unbundled in this way and the situation arises (either by a
needy applicant or regular applicant) that payments cannot be made (by
bankruptcy or otherwise) then we may question why an Auction process was not
considered suitable in this scenario. Banks and mortgage companies employ
Auctions where there is a default and it actually works to their advantage
as they are able to recoup the amount to be paid as well as administrative
costs. 

In summary, this gives applicants the benefit of coming up with this sum as
the process proceeds and if only applied to Needy applicants eases the
burden on the financial relief fund.

 

I look forward to your thoughts on the above. Please also note we have not
received many comments on the redline document and hope that evaluation and
input can be given before tomorrow's call.

 

Thank you

 

Cintra

 

 

 

 

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 5:24 AM, <tijani.benjemaa@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Also, it would be great if they can give us the yearly continuity operation
cost that they will consider in their application evaluation. 

 

De : owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx] De la part de Evan Leibovitch
Envoyé : dimanche 29 mai 2011 20:11
À : Rafik Dammak
Cc : soac-newgtldapsup-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Objet : [spam] Re: [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] The GAC weighs in on MR2

 

Hi Rafik,

 

I agree that we should give Karla a more detailed request. Obviously generic
questions will be met with generic responses.

 

I would like to start a brief discussion on what we will need from ICANN
staff in order to move ahead. Personally, I think that amongst the specific
details that we need is a detailed breakdown of the $185K. Such a detail
breakdown must indicate how much of the $185K is allocated to:

 

- cover the actual (ie, real time) cost to process the application

- apply various tests and controls (ie contention) that may not be
appropriate to JAS-qualified applications

- repay costs of historic policy work

- replenish the reserve fund for costs incurred by previous applications
(ie, .XXX)

- mitigate risk of lawsuits

- fund any other relevant cost category (i'm quite sure I don't have them
all here)

 

I would also like to obtain a fairly comprehensive set of the assumptions
and formulas that have been made in order to deduce the current scheme.

 

I'm sure (and I hope) that others can contribute to build a specific
request, one that (if answered truthfully and completely) will result in
information that can better guide our ability to derive a suitable and
justifiable amount for a reduced price.

 

- Evan

 

 

On 29 May 2011 13:19, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

 

*       We now have further justification for the additional resources
requested in the last JAS phone call

 

regarding the additional resources requested, it will be helpful to draft
the questions that JAS WG is asking and the exact nature/expertise that we
are looking for, especially about the legal knowledge, few questions and
requests which Karla can pass to legal staff and letting them ready in prior
to confcall.

 

Regards

 

Rafik 




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