Re: [ssac-gnso-irdwg] IRD solution recommended by ICANN staff?
- To: "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx>, Dave Piscitello <dave.piscitello@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ssac-gnso-irdwg] IRD solution recommended by ICANN staff?
- From: Francisco Arias <francisco.arias@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:59:29 -0800
You beat us on sending the email to let everyone know about it :-)
This draft roadmap is form implementing SSAC's SAC 051, which recommends
the replacement of the WHOIS protocol. The Board passed a resolution in
Dakar directing the production of this roadmap, which we just published in
draft (rough) form for community input.
Note that we are planning a session in Costa Rica. We are envisioning the
evolution of the roadmap document throughout two public comment periods
and be ready for Board/Community action by Prague meeting in June.
Your input is more than welcome:
On 2/20/12 9:48 AM, "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>Further to this topic, I note that the ICANN staff posted on Saturday a
>"Roadmap to a New Domain Name Registration Data Access Protocol (WHOIS)"
>and is asking for public comment on it. See
>From: Metalitz, Steven
>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 6:53 PM
>To: 'Dave Piscitello'
>Subject: RE: [ssac-gnso-irdwg] IRD solution recommended by ICANN staff?
>Thanks for this helpful response, Dave. I agree this work is very
>important and I have no reason at all to question your opinion that it
>has enormous merit. I am just having a hard time squaring your
>description with the CEO's statement that " ICANN staff members have
>developed and recommended a solution" and that this solution "is being
>considered for adoption as a standard" by the IETF. I hope you can help
>me gain a better understanding of the apparent discrepancy.
>I looked briefly at the IETF mailing list for which you provided a link.
>My sense is that this IETF group is discussing a charter for a working
>group that would try to develop something I would describe as a
>"solution." The draft charter I reviewed proposed the following
>milestones (and again it seems that the charter has not yet been
>approved, and I don't know the procedure for that):
>[start + 2 months] Draft WEIRDS requirements to IESG for
> publication as Informational RFC.
> [start + 6 months] Draft WEIRDS base specification to IESG for
> publication on the standards track
>This suggests to me that this process is many months away from producing
>a solution that would be considered for adoption as an IETF standard. I
>am sure I may be mistaken, but if so I hope someone will correct me.
>I also see on that mailing list some references to a document
>draft-sheng-weirds-icann-rws-dnrd-00.txt which I take it might be the
>"solution" that "ICANN staff members have recommended." What is the
>status of that document within the IETF process?
>While I am sure I might have missed it, was that document circulated to
>the IRDWG? If not, would it be possible to do so?
>Thanks for your patience as I try to find my way through these questions.
>From: Dave Piscitello [mailto:dave.piscitello@xxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:09 PM
>To: Metalitz, Steven
>Subject: Re: [ssac-gnso-irdwg] IRD solution recommended by ICANN staff?
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>The solution Rod Beckstrom mentions is a technical body of work in
>progress. Staff is looking at ways to build capacity in the protocol to
>handle IRD. Many external parties are working on various aspects of this
>solution, including SSAC, interested registry and registrar technical
>staff (participating in IETF discussions), and other stakeholders from
>private companies (Google, eBay/PayPal and others participating in the
>IETF community discussions).
>The technical body of work encompasses or takes into consideration:
>1- evolution of Whois in the RIR community towards a RESTful
>architecture, led by ARIN
>2- experimentation by ICANN staff, members of the RIR community to
>further study ARIN's approach
>3- presentation of (1) and (2) to the IETF for consideration
>4- the recommendations from SSAC regarding a Whois Taxonomy (SAC051)
>5- the report from the IRD WG
>6- the Whois review team recommendations
>No formal written document is yet available, primarily because several
>components are still being studied or refined. While there are many
>people involved in two or more of the above activities, they are running
>in parallel but are not synchronized.
>The reading list for anyone who is interested in participating or
>learning more includes:
>- - RESTful WHOIS for American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN),
>- - A RESTful Web Service for Internet Names and Address Directory
>Services, USENIX login 2011;
>- - IETF WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service
>- - SSAC 051: Domain Name WHOIS Terminology and Structure
>- - IRD WG report:
>- - WHOIS Policy Review Team Draft Report:
>I'm happy to chat about this work because I think it has enormous merit.
>On Jan 22, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Metalitz, Steven wrote:
>> I note with interest the following from Rod Beckstrom's letter to NTIA
>>Administrator Strickling on January 11, 2012
>> "ICANN staff members have developed and recommended a solution for
>>internationalized registration data (to ensure clarity of Whois
>>information using characters other than English). That proposal is
>>being considered for adoption as a standard by the Internet Engineering
>> Could the proposal referred to be circulated with the IRD Working
>> Group? Thanks .
>> Steve Metalitz
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