[alac] Re: [alac-admin] Internal Procedures

[Thomas Roessler <roessler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Moving this back to the public list -- there's no need to have this
discussion on the private one....

The process informally described by Vittorio is the way in which
"votes" are supposed to happen.  As far as document adoption is
concerned, three additional details are necessary (which were all
contained in the procedures draft):

- The proposed procedures include the option to go for a "no
  objections" approach, and time lines and thresholds for that
  approach are defined.

  (1/3 of the committee members' objections within two days stop
  publication.)

- Some rough time frames for votes are proposed.

- There's the notion of proxies, when people are absent.

Regards,
-- 
Thomas Roessler                        <roessler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>






On 2003-04-09 07:52:00 -0400, Esther Dyson wrote:
> From: Esther Dyson <edyson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Vittorio Bertola <vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Sebastian Ricciardi <sricciardi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>       ALAC private <alac-admin@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 07:52:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: [alac-admin] Internal Procedures
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> I think the formal process in this paragraph below  is sufficient for 
> now.  You are right that we will need to make it slightly more specific 
> later on - but I do think we should wait for the new members to do so.
> 
> Esther
> 
> So if we don't have a "formal" process for approvals of documents
> (where "formal", in the end, just means sending an e-mail to the list
> that says "it's ok for me", so I think that it *is* actually a simple
> mechanism) we risk to spend time on process discussions and create
> attritions each time we have to produce something. (Also consider that
> we are now a small group of people who like each other... but in the
> future the ALAC may become bigger and more controversial.)
> 
> 
> At 02:16 AM 4/9/2003, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> >On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 11:46:30 -0300, you wrote:
> >
> >>I think Esther has a point here. Let's make simple mechanisms that help us
> >>to perform our job without problems, and leave the details for the
> >>definitive members.
> >
> >My main reason to have a set of written procedures once for all is to
> >avoid repeated discussions on process. When we sent out the WHOIS
> >statement, there was some significant discussion up to the last minute
> >on whether it was correct to send that out as a committee statement,
> >or whether there had not been enough discussion and show of support
> >for it so that it should be sent as a personal contribution. In the
> >end, I took the responsibility to say "yes, this reflects the views of
> >the majority of the committee", and it's ok, I can do it and I think
> >it was the right evaluation of the wishes of the committee :) but it
> >would be better for everyone if there was a clearer way to demonstrate
> >whether there is support for something or not, so that it cannot be
> >attacked (not just internally, but especially from the outside of the
> >committee - think at Danny Younger challenging the validity of our
> >documents...). (My job as a Chair is not to take decisions in place of
> >the Committee - it is to facilitate consensus and to push for things
> >to be actually done.)
> >
> >So if we don't have a "formal" process for approvals of documents
> >(where "formal", in the end, just means sending an e-mail to the list
> >that says "it's ok for me", so I think that it *is* actually a simple
> >mechanism) we risk to spend time on process discussions and create
> >attritions each time we have to produce something. (Also consider that
> >we are now a small group of people who like each other... but in the
> >future the ALAC may become bigger and more controversial.)
> >--
> >vb.                  [Vittorio Bertola - vb [at] bertola.eu.org]<---
> >-------------------> http://bertola.eu.org/ <-----------------------
> 
> 
> 
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