RE: [alac] Action points / proposals from the Rome meetings

[Izumi Aizu <izumi@xxxxxxx>]

At 10:03 04/03/25 -0800, you wrote:
Denise, I receive many spam from  [alac-forum] list, and wonder
how this could happen if it is moderated.

I attach just one header as an example.

izumi

From: "Reggie Arnold" <gyyxuhoshilp@xxxxxxx>
Reply-To: "Reggie Arnold" <gyyxuhoshilp@xxxxxxx>
To: forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [alac-forum] Stop paying too much for cigarettes
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:06:34 -0200
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> The web-based ALAC forum is moderated (spam, etc. is not posted).  ALAC
> members, per your request, receive all emails sent to the forum address
> (before they are posted).
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-alac@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-alac@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > Roberto Gaetano
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 9:04 AM
> > To: roessler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; izumi@xxxxxxx
> > Cc: alac@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [alac] Action points / proposals from the Rome meetings
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >      17.  We should find a way to revitalize our forum and/or
> > > >      replace it with something more appealing to users.
> > > >      (Proposal: shall we merge it with the GA list?)
> > >
> > > >    Though Denise said it is moderated, I think it is not - there
> > > >    are too many spam mails there!  Merging with GA, or adding a
> > > >    new list with GA may work.
> > >
> > >Traditionally, the GA list has only been open to subscribers;
> > >alac-forum is attracting spam, though.  The real problem of the GA
> > >list is not spam, though:  It is the bad karma that this list has
> > >collected.  In hindsight, I guess that shutting down the GA list and
> > >starting over with stricter rules migh have been a better idea than
> > >keeping the moribund GA list alive.
> >
> > I agree that to force a merger will create more problems than it solves.
> > Also, if the idea is to find "something more appealing to users" I don't
> > think that the GA will help.
> >
> > >
> > >That said, we urgently need to find some way for open discussion --
> > >the current forum clearly does not work: While we may have a hard
> > >time to reach out, those people who are coming to us (through the
> > >forum) have an even harder time getting any response back from ALAC,
> > >or getting involved in any discussion with others who are
> > >interested.  Let's face it: In terms of enabling communication among
> > >individuals about ICANN issues, we have been a miserable failure so
> > >far.  I'd hope we can change that.
> >
> > The problem is that if the message is received by everybody, with nobody
> > specifically in charge for it, it will not be answered. If we
> > want to manage
> > an open forum, we need to allocate the resources to it.
> > Personally, I would be more in favour to a web post without sending to a
> > mailig list. But this does not change the issue, which is who answers.
> >
> > >
> > > >      18.  We should find a way to make the als-discuss list
> > > >      operational and active.  (Proposal: shall we appoint one of
> > > >      us as "facilitator" for public communication, with the
> > > >      specific responsibility to oversee public discussion mailing
> > > >      lists?)
> > >
> > > >    I would recommend to have two people, perhaps, than only one
> > > >    facilitator. Unless we have "superman/women".
> > >
> > >While it's good to have someone who's responsible, I'd hope that --
> > >once we have put an infrastructure in place that actually encourages
> > >communication -- all members of this committee attempt to
> > >participate in discussions.
> >
> > Again, it is OK if everybody participates to the discussion on a
> > voluntary
> > basis, but without a responsible we will never get good results.
> >
> > Regards
> > Roberto
> >
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