Re: [ga] Who speaks for the ALAC?

["Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Richard and all fellow stakeholders/users ALAC "Members?" or other
interested
parties,

 Richard is correct here. The ALAC could not possibly speak for
stakeholders/users as it does not allow for individual stakeholders/users
to join as members and vote individually.  The ALAC is essentially
structured as a "Trade Association".

 The ALAC certainly does not speak, or in any way represent the
INEGroup members.

Richard Henderson wrote:

> It's simple.
>
> ALAC doesn't speak for Internet Users.
>
> It speaks for the ICANN agenda.
>
> ALAC is an instrument of the ICANN Board, developed to constrain, contain,
> and marginalise the At Large movement, which would insist on democratic
> accountability being brought to bear on the ICANN Board.
>
> ALAC has been developed "top down" and it lacks the mandate of ordinary
> internet users.
>
> Therefore, it is truer to say that ALAC is representative of the ICANN
> Board. It does not represent Internet Users. No-one has asked for it.
No-one
> has voted for it.
>
> It is perfectly obvious that the defence of User interests, and the
> development of an adequate 'Watchdog' role on ICANN's machinations,
requires
> a worldwide structure which is *independent* of ICANN and organised
> externally.
>
> At present ALAC is not defending Users. It is acquiescing. ICANN has
> appointed its 'representatives'. ICANN (via Denise Michel) writes its
> responses.
>
> ALAC is a sham.
>
> Richard Henderson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Karl Auerbach <karl@CaveBear.com>
> To: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> Cc: <ga@dnso.org>; <vb@bertola.eu.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Who speaks for the ALAC?
>
> > On Wed, 28 May 2003 DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> >
> > > Having read the "ALAC responses to comments received on the proposed
> > > criteria, process and guidelines", I have only question:  Was ICANN
> Staff member
> > > Denise Michel the author of all of these responses?
> > >
> > > http://alac.icann.org/correspondence/responses-21may03.htm
> >
> > I agree that the answers are more than wimpy.
> >
> > For example, the answer to L. Gallegos, in my reading, amounts to a
> > statement that the ALAC, in its paternalistic way, knows best how people
> > should talk to one another and that it's either the ALAC way or the
> > highway.
> >
> > And when I suggested that the ALAC impose no requirement on at-large
> > members unless equivalent requirements are imposed on members of the
SO's,
> > the ALAC said (paraphrase) "We can't control the SOs".  That's not an
> > answer, it is an excuse.  The ALAC could have said "We will advocate
that
> > position to the Board" and in the meantime "we will not impose any
> > requirement that is not imposed on SO's".
> >
> > The old IDNO and other nascent assemblies in ICANN were dismissed as
being
> > non-representative because they could not demonstrate thousands and
> > thousands of active, unified members.  I'd suggest that the ALAC's
failure
> > to garner more than a trivial number of comments (even after extending
the
> > period for such comments) is indicative that if those other assemblies
> > were in fact disconnected from "the public" that the ALAC is even
further
> > disconnected and isolated.
> >
> > The ALAC lacks the gumption to do what is right; rather it seems intent
on
> > doing what is convenient.
> >
> > --karl--
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Regards,

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