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RE: [alac] FW: Review and Recommendations for Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)

  • To: "'John L'" <johnl@xxxxxxxx>, "'Vittorio Bertola'" <vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [alac] FW: Review and Recommendations for Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
  • From: "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:43:56 +0200

I guess we have to accept the fact that we will live forever with NTSC.

;>)

Roberto Gaetano
ALAC
ICANN Board Liaison
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-alac@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-alac@xxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of John L
> Sent: 20 October 2006 18:02
> To: Vittorio Bertola
> Cc: alac@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [alac] FW: Review and Recommendations for 
> Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
> 
> > made by two parts:
> > - it can't be technically done
> 
> Right.
> 
> > - and by the way, you're ignorant and stupid
> 
> Maybe this is a native vs. non-native speaker issue, but I 
> know some of the people who wrote the RFC and that is not 
> their attitude.
> 
> They probably are extremely exasperated at talking with 
> people whose attitude is "don't waste my time with this 
> gobbledygook, just make it work."
> 
> Basically, you can have Unicode, or you can have DNS, but you 
> can't have them both at the same time.
> 
> > (Actually, pretty anything can be done if there is enough
> > commitment: engineers succeeded in flying, don't tell me 
> that they are 
> > uncapable of inventing a Unicode-based lookup system.)
> 
> It's easy to invent one, and it's already been done.  Type 
> strings in any language you want into Google and see all the 
> stuff it looks up for you.
> 
> But since there is no possibility whatsoever that the billion 
> computers with DNS software will all upgrade to support a 
> modified DNS, there's no point in going down that road.  
> Since the DNS works end-to-end, even if you use DNS++ and I 
> use DNS++, if there are servers or caches in between that 
> don't handle DNS++, it won't work.
> 
> That's the lesson of EDNS0, which anyone who purports to be 
> interested in DNS futures should already know about.  
> Honestly, anyone who waves his hands and says "just change 
> the DNS" is definitely acting ignorant.
> 
> > If it really can't be done, a different attitude might do a lot in 
> > letting people really understand that.
> 
> They're trying, but people would rather shoot the messenger.
> 
> R's,
> John




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