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Re: [bc-gnso] BC Charter vote - suspended

  • To: BC gnso <bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] BC Charter vote - suspended
  • From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:26:09 -0500

great work George. i like this charter a lot and really appreciate all the work you put into crafting it. i haven't had a chance to go through it with a fine-tooth comb yet, but on first read it looks like a great "alternative version" for us to vote on.

what do others think?

Philip, where do we stand in the process of arriving at a charter in time for Seoul? sorry if i've missed the update if there has been one, i'm digging out from a week of Blackberry-based internet access and may have missed it.


On Oct 14, 2009, at 9:36 AM, George Kirikos wrote:


Our previously stated concerns have not been reflected,


and we continue to have major problems with the current draft, which
we do not support. I will not the officers have failed to answer the
questions previously raised about merging with the other
constituencies and providing the "minimally marked up" version of the
charter from months ago:


The past 6 months have demonstrated, to be blunt, that one can spend
months polishing a turd, but in the end it remains one. To build a
solid foundation, we should look elsewhere for a contract template to
build upon. Perhaps the IP, ISP, or other constituencies have better
charters to start from.

I've gone ahead and taken the City TLD charter template:


and made a small number of amendments to it to make it compatible with
the BC. I've attached that alternative charter in both PDF and .doc
formats (it was a rush job, so there are probably still some typos and
formatting errors in it). Kudos to Dirk for providing reasonably
balanced and neutral language in his proposed constituency charter. I
don't see it as the be-all and end-all, but present it as a starting
point that folks can build upon to get to a final charter that is
acceptable to a majority.

Below is a list of all substantial changes I made relative to the
original City TLD draft charter:

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1.1. Changed "City Top-Level Domain Constituency" to "Commercial and
Business Users Constituency" and CTLDC to CBUC here, and elsewhere
throughout the document.

1.2. Copied Mission from the current BC draft. from section 2.

1.3. changed RySG to CSG and RySGRs to CSGRs, and elsewhere throughout
the document

1.4.e. changed to reflect interest of business, instead of City TLDs

2.1.2.a. Changed the eligibility requirement from 6 months to 3 months

2.1.2.e. modified the reference to "active participation" which had
very iffy requirements and mandates

2.2.1. added words "after consulation with members"

2.2.4.a. approval of budget by MEMBERS, not just the EC, by a vote

2.2.5.i. eliminated the reference to more than 4 nominations; no one
should be excluded from a vote

2.3. changed from a private mailing list to the public mailing list.

2.4.1.e. changed 30 days to 10.

2.4.1.g. Added section that "EC shall explore the option of automated
voting systems." (i.e. use of BigPulse.com or other systems available
through the GNSO)

2.4.2.b. added the words to reiterate a "vote by members", eliminated
"Secretary" as having a role in the budget

2.4.2.e. New section. Make available accounting records to members.

2.4.3. changed "Appoint" to "Conduct Elections" with appropriate language

****** 2.4.8 need to review this; on most issues, members should be voting
***** 3.3.4 might need to recuse themselves, instead? Discuss further

3.1. added "annually" for clarity

4.1.2.e changed to a public mailing list

4.1.3.g changed "cityTLDs" to "ICANN"

4.2.3 changed to a public mailing list

5.1. Replace 5.1.1. with language verbatim from the existing BC charter

5.1.1 changed "city top level domains" to "ICANN issues"

5.1.2 changed "organization" to "entity"; remove last section denying
individuals as members

5.1.3.a./b/c and 5.1.4, changed "Member Organization" to "Member"

**** 5.1.5. CityTLD did not have weighted voting. I've changed this to
reflect the current BC voting, except that "small" companies are
defined as having less than 300 employees without reference to
revenues; alternatively, we can vote based on the number of gTLD
domains owned by an entity, in a logarithmic scheme as previously
discussed, e.g.

1 vote: 1-10 domains
2 votes: 11-100 domains
3 votes: 101-1,000 domains
4 votes: 1,001-10,000 domains
5 votes: 10,001-100,000 domains
6 votes: 100,001-1,000,000 domains
7 votes: more than a million domains

5.2.a. deleted references to city TLDs, and place branding

5.2.b. changed "public interest organization" to "entity"

5.2.c. Deleted, as made redundant by modified 5.2.b.

6.2.1. Changed to "more than 50%" from 2/3rds, and weighted votes.

original 6.2.2. Eliminated, as weighted votes are explicitly mentioned in 6.2.1.

6.2.3. Renumbered to 6.2.2.

7.1.a. redefine "Status" to be "Category Level of Membership"

7.3.2. removed entirely. This is redundant, as 7.3.1. makes it clear
what is "appropriate" content, and by definition anything that isn't
in 7.3.1. is inappropriate

9.1. changed "city top level domain" to "business"
9.1.d. eliminated this, as many of those belong to the NCUC

10.1.2.a/b/c changed "six month" to 12 month, and 1/2 to "1/3rd"

10.1.3. change them from being suspended to Observer

10.3.1. remove reference to 7.3.2, and instead refer to 7.3.1
10.3.4. and/or to the Ombudsman

11.1 Instead of specifying the fees, I've deleted them, and suggested
they be voted upon by members at least once per year.

11.2. Delete reference to Secretary

old 11.2.c. Delete entirely

11.2.d. Renumber to 11.2.c Changed Registry Stakeholders Group to CSG;
deleted ccNSO

11.3. remove reference to Secretary

11.4. reiterated requirement for a vote
------ end of list of changes -----------


George Kirikos

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