[gnso-irtpd] MP3 IRTP D WG - Monday 28 October 2013 at 1500 UTC

[Julia Charvolen <julia.charvolen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear All,

The next Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part D Working Group meeting is 
scheduled for next Monday 04 November 2013 at 1600 UTC.


Please find the MP3 recording for the IRTP Part D Working Group call held on 
Monday 28 October 2013 at 15:00 UTC at:

http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-d-20131028-en.mp3

On page:
http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>oct

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master 
Calendar page:
http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/

Attendees:
James Bladel - RrSG
Chris Chaplow – CBUC
Avri Doria – NCSG
Barbara Knight – RySG
Volker Greimann - RrSG
Mikey O'Connor – ISPCP
Holly Raiche – ALAC
Angie Graves – CBUC
Graeme Bunton - RrSG

Apologies:
Kristine Dorrain – NAF
Kevin Erdman - IPC
Paul Diaz - RySG

ICANN staff:
Lars Hoffmann
Glen De Saint Géry
Julia Charvolen

** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

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Thank you.
Kind regards,
Julia Charvolen


Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 28 October 2013:
Lars Hoffmann: Welcome to the IRTP Part D PDP WG Meeting, Monday 28 October 2013
Julia Charvolen: Chris Chaplow joinedd the meeting
Julia Charvolen: Volker Greimann joined the call
Avri Doria: I think if we don't give the registratn a right to initiaite or her 
own, we must have a forcing function.
Avri Doria: willwe make this an ombudsman duty?
Avri Doria: the ombudsman already has this jurisdiction, i expect, it is just 
that most registrants would not know this.
Chris Chaplow: Isnt Ombudsman only cases against ICANN corp and not the 
stakeholders, must be compliance?
Lars Hoffmann: Current 'job description' of the Ombudsman:
Lars Hoffmann: http://www.icann.org/en/help/ombudsman
Holly Raiche: @Chris - that is my undeerstandingfor Ombudsman jurisdiction
Avri Doria: ombudsman can take any case where soemone has been treated 
unfairly, unless they are an employee
Avri Doria: look at the case he filed against the ICC dispute resolution 
services.
Avri Doria: filed on behalf of someone who wanted to file an objection and was 
late inpaying.
Holly Raiche 2: I just had a look at the link Lars provided - and it confines 
Ombudsman jurisdiction to what ICANN does - so we would need to clarify the 
jurisdiction issue
Avri Doria: reading http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#V i am not 
sure it would extend to registrars, but to a dispute resoltion service has 
already been shown.
Avri Doria: so it would be a question.
Avri Doria: Volchers solution seems very burdenson on the registrant
Avri Doria: I think there if the registrant can't do it themselves, someone 
need to be reponsible for doing on their behalf.
Volker Greimann: Avri: The registrant must always be responsible, as the 
registrant is under normal circumstances the only party actually interested in 
this
Avri Doria: nothing new aded
Volker Greimann: you have sun? lucky you. been raining here all day
Holly Raiche 2: Agree with the fundamental principle of registrant access to 
appeal
Volker Greimann: Mikey: I agree, that is my impression as well.
Volker Greimann: instead of designing two processes that do what they are 
supposed to do, we are overloading one process with additional goals
Holly Raiche 2: makes sense to me
Avri Doria: Registrant issues do need to be dealt with, even if they are white 
whlies.
Avri Doria: whales
Lars Hoffmann: http://buenosaires48.icann.org/en/schedule?date=2013-11-20