Re: [gnso-irtpd] Off the cuff draft:

[Holly Raiche <h.raiche@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

And the point I was making this morning (my time) is that if that domain name 
is then provided to a new registrant (who would have no way of knowing that it 
was the subject of a wrongful transfer) puts his/her money down and spends 
further money promoting that name, then there are two registrants who lose - 
the original (and proper) owner and the new owner.  What a court may do (and 
this is basic equitable doctrine stuff - coming out of England into the common 
law world and probably further) is talk about the 'innocent third party' who 
put money down in good faith for something - with compensation for the loser.

I'm not saying what is right or wrong here.  In fact, there are two competing 
'right' claims. It's just that the ICANN solution seems to be to give the name 
back to the original, rightful registrant.  It is not clear whether a court 
would make the opposite call, or say that ICANN rules should prevail.

No that is not an answer - it is an issue that does need some thinking through

Holly


On 14/01/2014, at 4:55 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:

> Very rough first draft for further discussion....
> 
> "Upon receiving a notification from the Losing Registrar of a previous 
> transfer of a domain name of that transfer having occurred either without the 
> knowledge and permission of an earlier Registered Name Holder or in violation 
> of the IRTP, the Registrar of Record shall lock the domain name against 
> modifications or transfers. Registrar shall remove the lock after 21 calendar 
> days unless he receives a notification that court proceedings against the 
> party that initiated the transfer have been initiated, in which case the lock 
> shall be removed only after the proceedings have concluded."
> 
> Locking would naturally be interpreted in the context of the Lock-PDP.
> The notification of initiation of court proceedings would have to have the 
> same requirements as the notifications of the registrant that lost a UDRP.
> The "party that initiated the transfer" would probably have to be refined, 
> not happy with that term. 
> 
> Naturally, we would also have to amend the ICANN transfer policy to allow for 
> a denial of a transfer in case of a claim of unauthorized prior transfer.
> 
> 
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