Re: [ga] If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they expect to have .org renewed?
Chris and all, Good point, and one that has been discussed before. I can only guess that the ICANN Bod seems to be of the opinion that at least PIR/ISOC registry for .ORG can. However from our members perspective this practice seems to be a COI. kidsearch wrote: > They are also in the domain name speculation business if I'm correct. Isn't > BuyDomains.com also owned by Michael Mann? Grassroots.org on the surface > seems okay, yet buydomains.com has many dot org domain names that could be > used for a charitable purpose up for sale to the highest bidder or for set > prices that are more than most charities can afford. > > That brings up the whole, should a registry operator also be speculating in > the domain names under their own tld thing. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <org-tld-agreement@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; <vint@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:21 AM > Subject: [ga] If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they > expect to have .org renewed? > > > Hello, > > > > According to the .org Advisory Council Charter: > > > > http://www.pir.org/PDFs/pir_ac_charter.pdf > > > > "Section 3:... No two members of the Council will be from the same > > non-commercial organization." > > > > Michael Mann and Angela Stuber are both from Grassroots.org: > > > > http://www.pir.org/AboutPIR/CouncilMembers.aspx > > > http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=Highlights&name=Content+Detail+-+Volunteer > > http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=About&name=Board+of+Directors > > > > Apparently, when this was brought to the attention of PIR, instead of > > rectifying the issue, they "did not see a problem with it". > > > > http://www.domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&postid=327276#post327276 > > > > I have nothing against Grassroots.org, but perhaps ICANN and the public > > should seriously consider whether PIR, an organization that seemingly > > has no regard for their own charter, should be operating such an > > important registry as .org. Indeed, with presumptive renewal, it would > > be next to impossible to remove a registry operator. > > > > This is yet another reason why presumptive renewal should never exist > > in any registry agreement. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > George Kirikos > > http://www.kirikos.com/ > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/473 - Release Date: 10/12/06 > > > > Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Registered Email addr with the USPS Contact Number: 214-244-4827