Re: [alac] RE: [alac-admin] Re: [ga] More ALAC Follies

[Izumi AIZU <aizu@xxxxxxx>]

I quite agree with what Roberto wrote below.

One thing we are facing is that there are few real user group/user community
in most parts of the world who are interested in ICANN related activities.

Therefore, unless other constituencies such as ccTLDs agree to support
AtLarge - user participation - to ICANN process, solo effort by existing
ALAC/ALS may not be as effective as we want.

However, there should be a clear line between user participation
and ccTLD registry interests. I have no ready-made answer how
to make that clear, but I am aware of the challenges.

I hope this answer to Danny's legitimate question, at least partially.

izumi



At 14:11 05/11/27 +0000, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> I assume we can move this to the public list.
> [ga omitted, as I am subscribed with a different address, but feel free to 
> forward]
>
> The point is not only the size of the ccTLD, but the way it operates in 
> the community. Most ccTLDs are not only a Registry, but include other 
> functions: obviously this is more common for small ccTLDs, but not limited 
> to them. Typical case is the Eastern European ccTLDs, most of which run by 
> academic institutions, most of which with strong links to the user community.
> This subject came out in several meetings ALAC had with the ccTLDs, and 
> we agreed that there is a synergy in working together. This was, for 
> instance, the main reason for my trip to Erevan for the CENTR meeting last year.
>
> Therefore, more than an occasional coincidence, I would say a stratecic 
> approach. Of course, when we consider applications for ALS, we have to 
> evaluate whether the applicant is just a registry manager, and reject the 
> application, or fostering activity in the local internet community, and in 
> that case accept the application.
>
> Regards,
> Roberto GAETANO
> ALAC
> ICANN BoD Liaison
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: Vittorio Bertola <vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
> > CC: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, committee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [alac-admin] Re: [ga] More ALAC Follies
> > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:35:01 +0100
> >
> > Danny Younger ha scritto:
> > > I see that the ALAC has accepted yet another ccTLD
> > > manager as an At-Large Structure -- the Internet Users
> > > Society Niue.  Their application states:  "The Society
> > > is the cctld manager of .nu and is funded by .NU
> > > Domain Ltd the marketing arm of IUS-N".
> > >
> > > Earlier, the ALAC had approved the application for the
> > > Sudan Internet Society which is the ccTLD manager for
> > > the .sd domain.
> > >
> > > Sorry, but I'm afraid I no longer understand the
> > > definition of "at-large"... perhaps someone on the
> > > ALAC can clear up my confusion...
> > >
> > > It seems to me that logic would dictate that a ccTLD
> > > manager would choose to affiliate himself with the
> > > ccNSO, and that noncommercial organizations would
> > > choose to join the NCUC.
> >
> > The State of Niue has 2'156 inhabitants in total. It seems natural to me 
> > that those few who constitute the local Internet community also run the ccTLD.
> > I think that in countries where the Internet is still at its embryonic 
> > state of development it is very hard to draw a line between "the users 
> > community" and "the technical community". It would have been much 
> > different if we had received an application from, say, the ccTLD manager 
> > for Italy :-)
> > --
> > vb.             [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a] bertola.eu.org]<-----
> > http://bertola.eu.org/  <- Prima o poi...
>
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