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RE: [bc-gnso] RE: McCarthy/Franklyn comments on closed generics
- To: "mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'bc - GNSO list'" <bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: McCarthy/Franklyn comments on closed generics
- From: Phil Corwin <psc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:14:56 +0000
Mike:
I appreciate the disclosure in the attachment that you represent "a number of
applicants intending to operate 'Single-Registrant' TLD models as allowed by
the terms of the Final Applicant Guidebook and Draft Registry Agreement".
While you know that I love to engage in vigorous legal and policy debate, I
regret that I don't have the bandwidth today to respond to all your questions
because of client work being done under deadline. I have no doubt this dialogue
will continue, and others on the distribution list can of course join in, and I
look forward to further engagement myself when my In Box is a bit less
overflowing.
I would state that if .brands and closed generics are viewed as joined at the
hip, my personal preference would be to deny the COC exemption to closed
generics and allow .brands to amend their applications so that they are for
non-generic terms (e.g., let Microsoft apply for single registrant operation
of, for illustrative example, .mswindows, Apple for .iApple, etc.) These are
not multi-registrant gTLDs that need to attract intuitive type-in traffic, and
to the extent they may be used for external as well as internal purposes they
have the marketing clout to readily educate customers, suppliers, and Internet
users regarding their proprietary right of the dot address.
I do note that while your attachment asserts that "ICANN has reopened a
significant policy issue that was debated many years ago", neither it nor your
e-mail address a central point I've made - that the registry agreement requires
adherence to the COC, that the COC generally restricts self-registrations by
the registry operator, and that the Section 6 exemption for single-registrant
gTLDs requires an ICANN discretionary decision and application of a public
interest standard. I know of no prior debate on what that public interest
standard should be. Any comment on the relevance of the Code of Conduct to this
discussion? I'm sure your clients must have been aware of it as they prepared
their applications.
Best,
Philip
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
Virtualaw LLC
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From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:03 PM
To: Phil Corwin; 'bc - GNSO list'
Cc: 'IPC Discussion List'
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: McCarthy/Franklyn comments on closed generics
Phil,
My disclosure is contained at the head of my response to ICANN's request for
public comments, attached.
You have not tried to answer some key questions. Why should Microsoft get to
keep .windows closed from the rest of the world? What about the fact that
almost all 'generic' words in fact are registered as trademarks? What about
the fact that generic terms have been exclusive domain name property since the
beginning of the DNS, apparently with no adverse impact on either competition
or consumer confusion? Why should TLD policy be any different?
It has been very difficult for me, personally, to criticize Professor McCarthy.
He is quite simply the best teacher I have ever had, and taught me the core
principles of trademark law on which I have built my career. But he is wrong
here, his reasoning is speculative and suspect on this important point, as I
have tried to explain. I would love to see his or your answers to my questions.
Mike Rodenbaugh
RODENBAUGH LAW
tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087
http://rodenbaugh.com
From: Phil Corwin [mailto:psc@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:12 AM
To: mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 'bc - GNSO list'
Cc: IPC Discussion List
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: McCarthy/Franklyn comments on closed generics
Mike:
With all respect, Prof. McCarthy's 7-volume treatise on Trademarks and Unfair
Competition has been cited in more than 3,000 judicial opinions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Thomas_McCarthy. So I would hesitate to agree
that he is "obviously wrong" on this matter. At a minimum, given all the time
and energy that ICANN has devoted to respecting and protecting trademarks
through such new gTLD RPMs as the TMC and URS, his expert view on the
incompatibility of closed gTLDs with trademark law should be taken very
seriously.
While I personally disagree that closed generics [which I regard as
applications in which it is proposed that the registry operator be the sole
registrant in a proposed string in which the applicant holds no trademark
rights; that is, not a .brand] don't raise trademark law concerns, I do concur
that competition issues also arise and may even be the primary issue. In that
regard, as well as in regard to claims that the ICANN request for comments on
closed generics somehow raises a new issue, sets a precedent for major changes
in the Applicant Guidebook, or portends an unfair change in rules that
applicants relied upon, I would respond that the need to obtain an exemption
from the Code of Conduct (COC) for a closed registry has always been present,
as well as the application of a public interest standard to the granting of
such a waiver, and that applicants cannot now claim surprise or ignorance.
Section 2.14 of the Registry Agreement has always stated that a registry
operator must comply with the COC set forth at Specification 9.
Section 1.b of the COC has always stated that the registry operator and its
parents, affiliates, subcontractors, or other related entities can only
register domains in the registry to a very limited extent - restricted to names
that are reasonably necessary for the management, operations, and purpose of
the TLD.
Section 6 of the COC provides for an exemption process whereby ICANN may, in
its sole discretion and conditioned on its "reasonable satisfaction", allow the
registry operator to register and maintain all domain registrations for its
own exclusive use - if ICANN determines that "application of this Code of
Conduct to the TLD is not necessary to protect the public interest". My
understanding of the exemption clause is that it arose from the BC to
accommodate .brands, without any contemplation that certain applicants would
seek to lock up dozens of key dictionary words for their own exclusive use (in
fact, their goal may be less to use the registries than to deny access to
current and potential competitors).
So in my view this debate is not about creating a new definition for "closed
generics" but whether the public interest requires ICANN to deny exemption
requests for proposed non-.brand closed registries. (And I absolutely reject
the sophistic and unconvincing arguments I have seen that an applicant can
bypass the exemption process entirely by simply declaring that its gTLD's
"purpose" is to be for its own exclusive use - that would allow the exception
to swallow the rule and render Section 6 a pointless nullity.)
My personal view is that closed generic gTLDs are inherently anti-competitive
monopolies and that ICANN should adopt a position that denial of such exemption
requests is necessary to protect the public interest. These applications are
incompatible with the competition and innovation justifications made for the
new gTLD program because they are motivated by anti-competitive self-interest
and the goal of denying these strings as a platform for pro-competitive
innovation to others. New gTLDs are the perfect platform for competitive
vertical search - are competition, innovation and the public interest better
served by a .book for Amazon's exclusive use and protection of its existing
dominance, a .search for Google's exclusive use and protection of its existing
dominance, or by open gTLDs for those strings that can be utilized by
thousands of innovative market entrants?
I further believe that such a position is in ICANN's best long-term interest,
as well as the interest of all who want to preserve its multi-stakeholder model
against governmental intrusion. While it is true that the competitive issues
raised by closed gTLDs are the ultimate responsibility of national competition
authorities, ICANN will do itself no favors if it approves closed generic gTLDs
that subsequently require years of investigation, enforcement actions, and
expenditure of human and financial resources (in an era of constrained public
resources) by such authorities when the matter could have been avoided in the
first place by adopting a responsible position of the public interest
consideration for granting COC exemptions.
A final consideration is the potential spectacle of thousands of closed generic
applications flowing into ICANN on the second round if it accommodates them in
the first. Domain and marketing consultants will surely be advising the world's
largest companies that if they don't file applications to lock up key
dictionary words for their own primary commercial activities that their
competitors may well grab then and close them off. ICANN could well realize a
$billion in application fees in the second round by marketing key words in the
world's major languages for the purpose of locking them away rather than making
them available to global Internet users. I for one find the prospect of selling
off exclusive use of such words as if they were municipal stadium naming
rights to be crass and unseemly and, while in ICANN's financial interests,
inconsistent with its responsibilities and role of managing the DNS in a manner
consistent with the public good.
In closing, while I shall leave it to Professor McCarthy to decide whether to
take offense and respond to your assertion that his comment letter constitutes
an "apparent conflict of interest" because of Microsoft's sponsorship of the
annual McCarthy Symposium, I am incredulous that he would make the statements
contained in his comment letter if he did not fully subscribe to them. For the
sake of full disclosure, while the views expressed above are my personal views,
I am providing counsel to a new gTLD applicant that is in contention with a
Google application for a closed generic (ICA, the client with whom I am
generally associated and which I represent on the BC, did not have a consensus
among its members on closed generics). For the sake of full disclosure, and
especially given your assertion that Professor McCarthy's comments evidence a
conflict of interest, will you disclose whether you are advising applicants for
closed generics?
Regards,
Philip
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
Virtualaw LLC
1155 F Street, NW
Suite 1050
Washington, DC 20004
202-559-8597/Direct
202-559-8750/Fax
202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
From: Mike Rodenbaugh [mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:43 AM
To: Phil Corwin; 'bc - GNSO list'
Cc: IPC Discussion List
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] RE: McCarthy/Franklyn comments on closed generics
Phil, thanks for sending around Prof. McCarthy and Prof. Franklyn's statement
on so-called 'closed generic' TLD strings. I have great respect for Prof.
McCarthy; he taught me trademark law at USF in the early '90's and his treatise
is a leading authority. However, this statement is not persuasive. The
fundamental premise you quote is obviously wrong.
While trademark law, by definition, may prohibit trademark registration of
generic terms, it does not and has never prohibited individuals from gaining
exclusive property rights in generic terms. There are millions of generic
terms that are the subject of exclusive domain name property rights, i.e.
chocolate.com, sex.com, etc. Many countries recognize that chocolate.com, for
example, can function as a trademark even for the service of selling chocolate,
particularly after a period of exclusive use by which distinctiveness is
acquired. As you well know, there are many such trademark registrations in
many jurisdictions. Exclusive ownership has always been permitted in regards
to domain names at all levels of the DNS - including the top level. Why should
there be any policy difference between TLDs and .com domains? Though the US
has been more conservative in granting trademark rights in domain names or TLD
strings, no US law has ever sought to prohibit exclusive use of generic domain
names, and many arguably generic words are registered as marks for related
goods and services (as well as a few arguably generic TLD strings). Indeed
many TLD operators and prospective TLD operators have secured trademark
registration in their TLD string, some in the U.S. and many more in Europe and
elsewhere.
As Prof. McCarthy taught me and thousands of others, trademark law seeks to
prevent confusion as to source of a good or service. The type of confusion he
and Prof. Franklyn cite in their statement on this issue has nothing to do with
product source, and is purely speculative. They say (and you quote):
"consumers may mistakenly believe they are using a gTLD that allows for
competition, when in reality the gTLD is closed and the apparently competitive
products are being offered by a single entity"
They are speculating, without citation to any evidence or authority, that
consumers "may" be confused as to some aspect or quality of the TLD service,
but that has nothing to do with confusion as to the source of that service.
They are speculating that the marketing of such TLDs will be confusing, when
there is no factual basis whatsoever for such speculation. Web users have had
long exposure to generic domain names used by myriad businesses, including
well-known brands, throughout the world for more than 20 years, with absolutely
no confusion ever documented as far as I am aware. That evidence ought to
trump the blank speculation even of well-respected trademark academics.
Furthermore, they do not address why Apple Computer should get to own .apple or
Microsoft should get to own .windows (among many other examples of 'generic'
dictionary words that are trademarks, and that will be closed TLDs), and
exclude anyone else from registering domains in that TLD, even if they want to
refer to the fruit or to the glass building component. They do not address how
consumer confusion in that case would logically be any different than the
consumer confusion they posit.
Finally, it must be noted that the annual McCarthy Symposium, probably not
coincidentally held just a few days ago, counts on Microsoft as its major
sponsor. And of course Microsoft has become one of the most outspoken critics
of so-called closed generic TLDs, quite curiously despite its own applications
for .docs, .windows and other 'closed generic' TLDs.
Given this apparent conflict of interest, the blatantly faulty premise in its
core reasoning, and the misguided speculation as to future consumer
expectations that appears central to their argument, this one page statement
leaves a lot of questions and is far from persuasive, imho.
This is not a trademark issue, but a competition issue. It is also an issue of
fairness given that closed business models have been accepted by the community
since 2006, and many companies have invested heavily in reliance on the fact
that such models are not prohibited by ICANN's rules. All companies had the
same opportunity to make such investments. The primary voices arguing against
these models now are surrogates for those who passed on the opportunity (and,
curiously, Microsoft), those who are competing in contention sets with closed
business models, and those who want to sell unrestricted domain names and fear
disruption to the traditional domain name business model on which they have
built their business. Those patently self-interested concerns are not the sort
of concerns that should make any difference to ICANN at this point in the new
TLD program, or to anyone else in the world.
We should all care much more about the problem of .sport and .sports, for
example, coexisting as ICANN appears set to allow. That seems to have a much
higher likelihood of massive consumer confusion than does the operation of
closed TLDs.
Best,
Mike
Mike Rodenbaugh
RODENBAUGH LAW
tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087
http://rodenbaugh.com
From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Corwin
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 4:29 PM
To: Steve DelBianco; bc - GNSO list
Subject: [bc-gnso] RE: Contention sets for new gTLDs
"Unbelievably, they did not consider the singular and plural versions of key
words to be confusingly similar."
Unbelievable indeed. How about .dumb and .dumber?
Meanwhile the leading trademark authority in the United States, Professor
Thomas McCarthy, has just filed a statement opposing closed generic gTLDs as
being inconsistent with trademark law and its goals --
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-closed-generic-05feb13/msg00034.html --
"Trademark law in every country in the world forbids individuals to gain
exclusive
property rights in generic names of products. One of the primary rationales for
this rule is to
prevent a single person or company from gaining an unfair competitive advantage
in the
marketplace. Private ownership of generic language is not consistent with free
enterprise and
fair competition in an open economy. If ICANN were to approve closed, generic
gTLDs, these
important goals would be undermined...
Transparency and consumer choice are goals of the trademark system of every
country in
the world. In our view, these values are threatened by closed, generic gTLDs.
Indeed, should
these types of new gTLDs be approved, consumers may mistakenly believe they are
using a
gTLD that allows for competition, when in reality the gTLD is closed and the
apparently
competitive products are being offered by a single entity. This would allow the
owner of the
generic gTLD to gain exclusive recognition as the provider of a generic
service, something that
is prohibited by Trademark law."
How will that reflect on ICANN and the new gTLD program?
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
Virtualaw LLC
1155 F Street, NW
Suite 1050
Washington, DC 20004
202-559-8597/Direct
202-559-8750/Fax
202-255-6172/cell
Twitter: @VlawDC
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 6:50 PM
To: bc - GNSO list
Subject: [bc-gnso] Update: Contention sets for new gTLDs
Wanted you all to see this. I think it will reflect poorly on ICANN's
expansion of TLDs.
ICANN hired an international expert panel to scour 1900 new TLD strings and
determine which were confusingly similar, so they could be combines in the same
contention set.
This is to ensure we don't delegate 2 TLD strings that would confuse Internet
users because they are too similar. I expected, for example, that the
applications received for .hotel and .hotels would be in the same contention
set, since it would be confusing for users to have both TLDs out there. (It
would increase the cost of defensive registrations, too, since hotels would
have to buy domains in both TLDs. )
After several months of careful study, ICANN's experts published their
contention sets yesterday.
(link<http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-26feb13-en.htm>)
They "identified" 230 "exact match contention sets" where multiple applicants
sought the exact same string.
And they found just 2 "non-exact match contention sets" (unicom and unicorm;
hoteis and hotels )
Unbelievably, they did not consider the singular and plural versions of key
words to be confusingly similar.
This means we will get new TLDs for both the singular and plural versions of
keywords such as:
ACCOUNTANT ACCOUNTANTS
AUTO AUTOS
CAR CARS
CAREER CAREERS
COUPON COUPONS
CRUISE CRUISES
DEAL DEALS
FAN FANS
GAME GAMES
GIFT GIFTS
HOME HOMES
HOTEL HOTELS
HOTEL HOTELES
KID KIDS
LOAN LOANS
MARKET MARKETS
NEW NEWS
PET PETS
PHOTO PHOTOS
REVIEW REVIEWS
SPORT SPORTS
TOUR TOURS
WEB WEBS
WORK WORKS
What are the implications for applicants? Well, let's take an example. The 2
Applicants for .GIFT just got a huge gift from ICANN when they were not placed
in the same contention set as the 2 applicants for .GIFTS
One of the 2 .GIFT guys must prevail in their "singular" contention set. They
can then proceed to delegation, as they planned. Or they can negotiate to be
bought-out by the winning applicant from the plural contention set ( .GIFTS ).
In other words, many applicants dodged a bullet by escaping from contention
with their singular/plural form competitors. My guess is they want to explore
ways to monetize their good fortune.
--
Steve DelBianco
Executive Director
NetChoice
http://www.NetChoice.org and http://blog.netchoice.org
+1.202.420.7482
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