RE: [bc-gnso] Proposal for meeting with .BRANDS

["Marie Pattullo" <marie.pattullo@xxxxxx>]

All,

I checked with AIM’s members as to who is hoping to attend the meeting in 
Beijing, but so far I’ve drawn a blank. They tell me that they don’t find it 
surprising that not many brands are attending, as they aren’t running a domain 
name Registries so much as being busy concentrating on their core business. 
Businesses have already budgeted huge sums to apply for/protect domains - it's 
becoming harder to justify several long-haul trips a year to ICANN meetings. 
It's certainly not because they’re uninterested

Marie

 

From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron 
Andruff
Sent: lundi 4 mars 2013 18:21
To: martinsutton@xxxxxxxx
Cc: 'bc - GNSO list'
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Proposal for meeting with .BRANDS

 

Thank you for sharing this with the members, Martin.  

 

Two comments:  

 

(1)  taking into consideration your comments about who from brands will be in 
attendance in BJ, it seems even more important to send invite letters to all 
brand TLD applicants to see if we can encourage more participation in ICANN 
rather than have their consultants act as middlemen.  I have nothing against 
consultants doing their job, but it is clearly better to have the principals in 
the room rather than their filters if ICANN is going to expand its mindshare in 
the business sector; and

(2)  your RA submission to ICANN was enlightening to read as it brought new 
information to light that I had not considered.  Getting this kind of input 
from the broader group of .BRAND applicants would be very valuable to the 
community.  Can we look to you to evangelize the need of the rest of the 
business community to hear and learn more from our applicant brethren?

 

Kind regards,

 

RA

 

Ronald N. Andruff

RNA Partners, Inc. <http://www.rnapartners.com> 

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From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
martinsutton@xxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:40 AM
To: Ron Andruff
Cc: 'bc - GNSO list'; 'Elisa Cooper'; owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Registry Conf Call & Proposal for meeting with .BRANDS

 

Ron, 

For many of the .brand applicants, ICANN and the gTLD programme (still) 
represents an insignificant part of their overall business.  Hence, many 
applicants will expect their consultants to cover the ICANN chores, rather than 
be present themselves. 

Nevertheless, I would hope that those applicants based closer to Beijing will 
be taking the opportunity to attend in April. 

As you know, I am an applicant for .hsbc and have been engaging with other 
.brand applicants to identify ways to ensure that our interests are represented 
within the ICANN structure going forward. I would be happy to facilitate a 
discussion with the BC on .brand perspectives with those that will be available 
in Beijing. In the meantime, the attached paper was submitted by this group to 
ICANN in response to the public comment period for the RA changes; 

  

Kind regards, 

Martin

 
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From: 

"Ron Andruff" <randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 


To: 

"'Elisa Cooper'" <Elisa.Cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'bc - GNSO list'" 
<bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx> 


Date: 

04/03/2013 16:09 


Subject: 

RE: [bc-gnso] Registry Conf Call & Proposal for meeting with .BRANDS 


Sent by: 

owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx

 

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Thanks for the prompt reply, Elisa. 
  
Considering that there are 637 brand TLD applications, one would think that all 
(or a majority of them) would be showing up at an ICANN meeting, so I am 
somewhat surprised that you are aware of only a few attending… Perhaps, as 
Chair, you could work with our Secretariat to send invitations out to all of 
them?  That outreach could have a tangential benefit insomuch as the invitees 
may also be potential BC members.  We have some six weeks or so before the 
meeting, why not go for it? 
  
Regarding the webinar suggestion, I am a strong believer of face-to-face 
meetings whenever possible so my first vote goes there.  If we do go the 
webinar route, I would recommend a new title: A New Era for Business on the 
Internet: Informing and Educating about .BRANDs. 
  
Hope that this helps move this discussion forward. 
  
Kind regards, 
  
RA 
  
Ronald N. Andruff 
 <http://www.rnapartners.com/> RNA Partners, Inc. 

 

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From: Elisa Cooper [ <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
mailto:Elisa.Cooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 10:27 AM
To: Ron Andruff; 'bc - GNSO list'
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Registry Conf Call & Proposal for meeting with .BRANDS 
  
Ron, 
  
I am on the call – but will only be able to attend the first 60 minutes. The 
call will be recorded and transcribed for those unable to attend. 
  
Regarding your separate comment - I would be in support of inviting .Brands to 
meet with us in Beijing. Of those that I personally know that are attending 
(which is just a few), I have already invited them to join our meeting 
scheduled on Constituency Day (Tuesday). 
  
That said, we might also consider reaching out to them and inviting them prior 
to Beijing, to a webinar entitled, “Understanding and Influencing ICANN”. 
  
Thoughts? 
  
Best, 
Elisa 
  
Elisa Cooper 
Director of Product Marketing 
MarkMonitor 
  
208 389-5779 PH 
  
From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [ <mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx> 
mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Andruff
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 8:10 AM
To: 'bc - GNSO list'
Subject: [bc-gnso] Registry Conf Call & Proposal for meeting with .BRANDS 
  
Good morning all. 
  
Just sending a note to the list to inquire as to how many BC members will be on 
the Registry call that is starting now?  Perhaps our Secretriat could pull 
together a list for everyone’s benefit? 
  
Separately, in preparation for this call I was going through the filings and 
came to realize (again) that that there are 637 .BRANDS from the 1900.  Many of 
them are brands we know and some are BC members.  Others we don’t know… 
  
Question for the Ex  Com: Would it not make sense to invite the .BRANDS to come 
to meet the BC in Beijing?  For my part, it would be extremely helpful to hear 
from them and to have an opportunity to learn more.  Perhaps we could invite 
them for the CSG breakfast on Tuesday, if guests have not already been 
scheduled for that meeting slot. 
  
It seems to me that BC members would benefit greatly from meeting with 
businesses that are applying for top-level domains. 
  
My two cents. 
  
Kind regards, 
  
RA 
  
Ronald N. Andruff 
 <http://www.rnapartners.com/> RNA Partners, Inc. 
  



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