Re: [ga] domain tasting comments

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Chris and all,

  You may very well be right that elimination of Domain
Name speculation isn't possible.  What I was trying to
articulate is to make Domain Name speculation at least
a rarity.

  Registering similar Domain Names in different TLD
name spaces isn't in my mind, speculating.  For instance
if I was to register JAW.COM, and JAW.PE as well, ojr in
any other name space such would not be speculating in 
my view.  

-----Original Message-----
>From: chris@xxxxxx
>Sent: Mar 30, 2008 1:32 AM
>To: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, domain-tasting-motion@xxxxxxxxx
>Cc: GA <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Roberto Gaetano <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>, 
>twomey@xxxxxxxxx, avri@xxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ga] domain tasting comments
>
>
>No possible way to do eliminate domain name speculation where the registrant 
>pays for the domain name, nor do I believe they should eliminate it.
>
>1. How would you propose eliminating it?
>
>2. Would you say anyone who has not built a website on the domain in a 
>specific period of time is speculating?
>
>3. What if I register a domain name that I plan to use in the year 2040 and 
>believe it is worth keeping and paying for until then?
>
>4. If I register a domain name, I may very well plan to use it, but then 
>never get around to building it and let it drop later. That is also 
>speculating wouldn't you say?
>
>5. If you did put a rule that they had to build a website on the domain 
>name, what exactly would satisfy your definition of website?
>
>6. I advise clients to also register the dot org and net of their domain 
>names. We are "speculating" that a competitor may want to register them and 
>do not want them to. Would this also be eliminated?
>
>I see no problem with anyone who registers a domain name and pays for the 
>registration. It's not my business, nor ICANN's business what they do with 
>the domain or if they ever build a website or not.
>
>Chris McElroy, NameCritic, Inc.
>http://www.wholettheblogout.com
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <domain-tasting-motion@xxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: "GA" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>; 
><twomey@xxxxxxxxx>; <avri@xxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [ga] domain tasting comments
>
>
>>
>> Dominik and all,
>>
>>  Frankly eliminating Domain Name speculation would go far
>> in addressing Tasting, Domain Name Warehousing, and Front
>> Running and I believe that Domain Name speculation should
>> be banned all together.  But eliminating Domain Name speculation
>> will not in and of itself, eliminate Tasting nor Front Running.
>>
>> Dominik Filipp wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> See my lines below
>>>
>>> > Of course it is. Yet again changing or amending
>>> > the RAA's regarding the AGP is not going to necessarly
>>> > accomplish killing Tasting.
>>>
>>> The AGP elimination will definitely eliminate tasting. It does not
>>> eliminate other forms of speculation however.
>>>
>>> > Better would be to monitor
>>> > deletes and if they rise above a certain level of a
>>> > considered norm, revoke or suspend that
>>> > registrars/registries Accreditation. If such levels
>>> > are reached or exceeded more than three times in any
>>> > given 6 month period, revoke that registrars and/or
>>> > registries Accreditation perminantly and temporarly
>>> > reassign those functions to whatever existing
>>> > registrar/registry or other qualified entity that is
>>> > interested in managing same properly and ethically.
>>> > OR, require and verify modifications to the registration
>>> > software that prevents Tasting as I have already suggested.
>>>
>>> Disagree. None human oversight based on plethora of unclear bylaws
>>> vulnerable to being neglected or abused can replace inherent systemic
>>> element principally avoiding fraudulent activity. If such exists, of
>>> course. Fortunately, domain tasting is the case.
>>> The oversight should be necessary if there is no other way to ensure it
>>> in such fundamental way. Unfortunately, as in most situations in real
>>> life.
>>>
>>> Dominik
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jeffrey A. Williams
>>> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
>>> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>>>    Abraham Lincoln
>>>
>>> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
>>> often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>>>
>>> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
>>> liability
>>> depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
>>> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
>>> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
>>> ===============================================================
>>> Updated 1/26/04
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>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
>> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>>   Abraham Lincoln
>>
>> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
>> very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>>
>> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
>> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
>> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
>> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
>> ===============================================================
>> Updated 1/26/04
>> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
>> div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
>> ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
>> jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> My Phone: 214-244-4827
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
'Regards,
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of
Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.